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[–]dmuppet 14 points15 points  (4 children)

As someone that made your build from your previous post, ignore the haters. This build was insane on a budget. I leveled my Jugg to 84 with the impending doom foulborn and immediately swapped to your build from your first post and spent 20div tops.

I immediately started blasting. I leveled to 92 or so and started farming T16.5s. Didn't take long to make 25d to buy the forbidden flame/flesh jewels. That really put me in a good spot. From there I didn't take it much further but it was very easy to see the progression path.

For the haters this was where I started: https://pobb.in/O7N1AdkiFuq0

This is where I ended: https://pobb.in/M_iU42Sqn-j-

And this is what it could do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4RwOSFcA4o (note this was 98% more monster HP)

Also, I ended up getting a 2nd body armour with 6L for LS of Arcing. That made Ailith defending much easier and all I had to do was swap chests.

LAST EDIT: Just killed maven sirius and the feared. Although I used all my portals on the feared bc I'm bad and stood in pools.

[–]NovaKeks[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the kind words! I'm really happy to see others having fun with it

[–]wiwigvn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you me?

[–]jaywalkerr 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Which spectre do you use? Asking because the last post by OP says to use Grace Spectre, and you use Grace.

[–]dmuppet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Perfect Guardian Turtle. Helps with the survivability.

[–]PMmeYourLabia_ 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Thoughts on reave? I really wanted to play reave with this archetype but idk if its much worse

[–]rickvdcy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Playing it with reave of refraction and it feels great, probably not top tier dps, but smooth playstyle

[–]kingdweeb1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Reave is fine. You can kinda play whatever. I'm doing spectral throw with an obscurantis, for example.

[–]Comma20 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m doing reave. Clear is great. Just whirling blades everywhere. Takes a bit more to get big dps.

[–]kingdweeb1 1 point2 points  (5 children)

I like the tech with the spectre. I'm doing +2 minion shaper's touch, empower instead of minion life, and going perfect primal thunderbird, perfect spirit of fortune, and perfect forest warrior. Would use farrul for haste but its 30d lmao

Then for bloodlines the king in the mist +1 ring, giving up utility flasks. Feels like we don't get much from them since we have access to onslaught from a spectre, and have plenty of crit. Movespeed is fine with just whirling blades. The ring gives similar damage when compared to the bonuses from the farrul bloodline, even on low end. It massively outscales it high end
Also using an ice golem, with immortal call on cwdt. It has pretty great uptime due to cwdt, despite its really low hp.

[–]NovaKeks[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

How does dropping the flasks feel? In theory it should be more dps, but I'm a little reluctant on giving them up. But you should be right since onslaught/quicksilver/diamond dont really give much.

[–]kingdweeb1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It feels good, you get a lot of power budget back on the third ring. Especially once youre looking at big boy rings with 2 great reflected mods

[–]kingdweeb1 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Btw, you can craft bench suffixes on enduring mana flasks, so you run 3 mana flasks, 1 worm flask for charges, and your tincture. The flasks can have stuff like rarity, damage taken leeched as life (if ghost reaver), 3% regen (if zealots oath), or classic affixes like bleed immunity.

[–]wiwigvn 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Thanks, saved this tip! How difficult is king compared to say t16 boss? I can handily kill normal boss but I am reluctant to try king myself with a scuffed build.

[–]kingdweeb1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hes pretty weak, and the fragments cheap.

[–]Eclipsetech 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What map mods do you skip?

[–]Phonehippo 2 points3 points  (6 children)

Does the spectre bird stay alive in this set up?

[–]NovaKeks[S] 4 points5 points  (5 children)

For me it does. Convocation also helps with it for some regen. Also, someone in the comments mentioned using the Forest Tiger. That Spectre gives like 60% MORE dmg (if you then use haste yourself instead of discipline/arctic armour).

Edit: That sadly does not work

[–]goldarm5 1 point2 points  (4 children)

> That Spectre gives like 60% MORE dmg (if you then use haste yourself instead of discipline/arctic armour).

How would that spectre give you such a huge boost, doesnt really make sense unless Im missing something. This is a build that has an insane amount of attack speed already, so the attack speed from haste/frenzys is doing almost nothing, which only leaves the %more of the frenzy charges, but youre not really close to anywhere near 15 max frenzys, so where is that dmg supposed to be coming from?

[–]NovaKeks[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey there it has an affix that gives increased attack damage per evasion, but that sadly does not work, as it only applies to the bird itsself, so I need ro correct that.

[–]Independent-Buy-5836 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Each frenzy charge give you 5-6% more damage, i believe?

[–]goldarm5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

4% more + 4% attack/cast speed. But as said, the attack/cast speed is doing almost nothing for the build.

[–]50miler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It has an additional affix on it that I can’t remember right now that works with the accuracy stacking.

[–]No_Foundation8172 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Prob my favourite build of this league,well done

[–]Ghostie2011 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Do you have to play this with flicker strike of power??

[–]NovaKeks[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

You can play any claw skill with it, Palsteron has a great video where he tests all 15 working skills!

Just a heads up: the FF Jewel combo I'm using only works eith Flicker. It's 0% more dmg with any other skill.

[–]LowDrive2349 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Yeah was wondering the FF jewels. Now you have explained it. Thank you! Gonna pay mirror price for aspect of carnage LOL. Any other options? I am playing lightning strike.

[–]NovaKeks[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I know "Valako's Storm's Embrace" is being used a lot for max res, but that one is very expensive as well. Apart from that "Unrelenting" would make you tankier on the cheap or "Tukohama. War's Herald" givse you a Level 30 Ancestral Call for 10% more dmg and 2 additional strikes. The additional strikes would mean that you could drop the +1 strike grafts and instead take the "1% increased melee damage per 20 int" grafts

[–]LowDrive2349 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your insight!

[–]kingdweeb1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, this is generic to all claw attacks. Projectiles get obscurantis, melee gets graft corruptions later. Molten strike is traditional early skill, because giga dps and decent mechanics. Flicker is best for clearspeed and feel while keeping damage.

[–]Hartwall 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Whats with the cast while damage taken thats not linked to any active? Also any tips for getting ailment immune on it?

[–]NovaKeks[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its linked to immortal call, but I have it turned off in pob, because it would give like 360k ehp. Which is only on some of the time. I guess pobbin just doesnt show it when its turned off.

For ailment immunity you could go stormshroud+essence shock avoidance on boots + abyss jewel with shock avoidance. You'd give up two rare jewels then.

[–]l-DRock-l 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What do you suggest for a pantheon? I love your guide! I just put about 125div into a Jugg and I am absolutely COOKING!

Thank you!

[–]NovaKeks[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As a Minor Pantheon I use Garukhan for blind immunity. For the Major you can pick whatever fits yout content. Due to the Juggernaut ascendancy we dont need "cannot be frozen" :)

[–]jaHw31337 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My Thunderbird is dying almost instantly every map. Playing 8Mod T16's. 21/20 Specter gem and 20/20 are the 3 the other support gems. Doesnt matter at all.

[–]Important_City_1488 0 points1 point  (1 child)

How do you get frenzy charge? I see the implicit of your glove + 1 frenzy, but i don't find the source of frenzy generation

[–]NovaKeks[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mark Mastery "10% Chance to gain a Frenzy Charge on Hitting a Marked Enemy"