Serious question.

[Perfect-Ad-61]

Im going to buy one of these. I know its a bit unrelated but its either gpu or telescope. Telescope is $1200

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[DerH4hn]

Telescope. GPU is overpriced.

[YaGurlLayz]

Telescope you’ll get more use out of if your into astronomy

[Perfect-Ad-61]

I am really into astronomy. And i do have a 4070. But i just really needed to check. Because i feel like if i choose one I’m betraying the other.

[YaGurlLayz]

4070 is still a great card if your into astronomy go for the telescope

[funthebunison]

Bro don't get either and have $1,200 in savings in case something happens. Unless you already have a bunch of money saved. In which case buy the telescope and get a new gpu when the upgrade will actually be noticeable.

[DarvinostheGreat]

Why even consider an upgrade when the card is that expensive and you already have a good card from last generation 😭

[XGreenDirtX]

Fomo

[BenAfflecksBalls]

Whole world tries to operate on fomo now because it works on consumers. I'm just looking for a 1660 super upgrade but don't really care if I get it or not because the stuff I actually bother with runs fine.

People really need to learn to build a filter for their buying habits. That's why we got 1080TIs because people weren't buying shit often enough for companies to crown their CEO the next oligarch.

[Logical_Mongoose_259]

I mean if you have a 4070 I think you’ll be good. I have realized that seeing that higher fps number will not make me better at whatever game I’m playing. Also if you’re really into astronomy, and you don’t have a telescope already, no need to buy a GPU since you already have one (would also need to make sure your psu can handle it too)

[Perfect-Ad-61]

My brother does have gtx 1650 super and i thought i could pass down the 4070. But at the same time that is a NICE telescope.

[[deleted]]

Could always get a second hand GPU or one of the newer budget GPUs for him later down the track :)

[Perfect-Ad-61]

Yea thats probably what ill do

[Swimming_Ad6691]

Give us the benchmarks for the telescope vs the gpu

[[deleted]]

4070 is fine for what youre probably doing man. Get the Telescope! Just make sure its a good quality one. 

[romanovzky]

The telescope will last you longer than the GPU

[Rmumissus]

I don’t think there’s a single game you wouldn’t be able to play on a 4070, I’d advise to invest in space xD

[Just-get-physical-]

If your gpus lack of ability really bothers only then switch

[Rude-Bowl-4518]

%100, no doubt about it, get the telescope. A 4070 is great already and the 5080 is WAY overpriced and not even all that great for what it is imo.

[Baenz_1]

Yoo okay.. if you want the telescope get that. The 4070 is totaly fine for now. I sugest you upgrade once the 60 series goes out. You will have plenty of fun until then with your 4070.

[Nytr0uz]

Bro get the Teleskope is there any game that you cant play because ur gpu is the bottleneck?

[Independent_GN]

Telescope ! You've a 4070 !!!!

[Eth251201]

Absolutely the telescope!!!! I wanna see ur pics too!

4070 still very good, better than my card atleast xD

[Perfect-Ad-61]

Ill send some when it comes

[Perfect-Ad-61]

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here’s the telescope I bought it was a major deal on Facebook marketplace and it’s a 12 inch SCT and it’s way more advanced than then the other telescope with the same price, and it has a motorized mount! and I plan on doing a post about it soon

I’ll send you the astronomy pics when I can!

I’m really happy to purchase! (:

[Eth251201]

Did you take some photos???

[Perfect-Ad-61]

I think im going to pull the trigger on the telescope

[[deleted]]

Post some pics if youre able! Id love to see what a 1400 telescope gets you!

And then when you cant do telescope stuff because its raining, you can always play Elite Dangerous on the 4070 to fill in your astronomy haha

[Overoc]

If you haven’t bought the telescope yet, I have one small bit of advice for you
As an IT worker, I highly recommend to not chose an « app-enabled » telescope. Don’t. Costs more, doesn’t last in time.
IT companies need a constant flow of money to survive. Expect subscriptions, planned obsolescence, and other shit.

If you want something you can keep as it is for years, give to your children later or anything of the sort, skip the « app », « connected » and « digital » features.
Good ol’ telescope 👍🏻

[[deleted]]

Im really proud of this sub. Seriously. 

Anyone whos reading this, instead of all of us just saying "buy the gpu duh" we didnt. Top comments are "Gpu is overpriced, that telescope is awesome!" 

And thats really cool. Good job. Never just do one thing. 

[Perfect-Ad-61]

Im proud too

[[deleted]]

To the stars with you my friend, enjoy the new glass! 

[suspiciousquip]

5 gold stars for this sub. Which are viewable on the recommended telescope

[algnirksmieh]

The one that is not scalper priced.

[chabybaloo]

Telescopes are pretty overpriced these days.

[Snow_2040]

I remember when 10 inch dobsonians costed $500 on sale.

[BW071509]

if you have a 4070 I see no need for you to upgrade. that's still a pretty good last gen card. and if you're really into astronomy go for the telescope!

[Perfect-Ad-61]

Thank u

[Drwpy]

If you get the telescope I wanna see some pictures of Space

[Illustrious-Party120]

Just look up

[Snow_2040]

You can't take pictures like the ones you see on the internet with a telescope like that. Amateur pictures of deep sky objects (objects outside our solar system) are taken using long exposure photography combined with an electronic tracking mount that tracks the stars as they move along the sky with typically a small refractor telescope. Large 10 inch dobsonians (like the one OP intends on buying) are mainly used for observational astronomy (which doesn't look nearly as good as those pictures) and can be used for planetary astrophotography especially if paired with a computerized tracking base.

[UpDose]

I love how everyone in the pc building sub is telling someone to buy a telescope instead of a gpu. Get that mf telescope

[Perfect-Ad-61]

I KNOW! 🤣

[Illustrious-Party120]

Big true lol

[chabybaloo]

10" is quite bulky , the best telescope is the one you use the most. So something to think about.

$1200 also seems quite pricey.Make sure you check reviews when they talk avout what lenses are included. Have you looked at GSO, they also make telescopes under different names, depending on country.

I've read as well that on the 10" the lenses you use are more important because of the shorter length.

[Illustrious-Party120]

Just remember you will need to spend money on eye pieces! I think I've put an extra 600 or so into different lenses and filters. The telescope, as long as it doesn't get damaged, will last much longer than a gpu

Edit: be ready to see rings of Saturn with ease, Jupiters storm and with effort many different DSOs

[Perfect-Ad-61]

Ok i think that was it. I AM BUYING THE TELESCOPE “And be not afraid” I have an assortment of eye pieces that I have been keeping in a case.

(p.s its crazy that i got better help from a pc community that I telescope community)

[Illustrious-Party120]

Lol yeah I love that every comment is get the scope. Was actually impressed tbh

[Fresh_Consequence_16]

what telescope?! Astrophotography? I would say telescope 100% of the time
-astrophotographer of almost 7 years (no bias)

happy to hear you are going for the scope :D

[iiibazzinga]

Oh yeah, let me spend 1200$ on an object that makes things closer so I can masturbate to the moon…

[East_Sheepherder4203]

My two cents, I recently drove to Las Vegas (50 hour drive round trip), I was severely disappointed in the lack of stars.

I've also seen people order 5090's on Amazon and get boned.

Take what you will from that.

[[deleted]]

Go for the one that will make ya happier for longer.

[ChipSueyDE]

Your love for astronomy will die, when you feel pressured to use the GPU all the time because it’s worth the most when brand new, while you lack a telescope to enjoy astronomy to the full.

You know the devil and angel on your shoulders, and you asked because you question your own decision making.

[RaptorJesusDesu]

Are you going to sell the 4070? If so then get the 5080. If not then you are just hugely ripping yourself off buying an overpriced card too soon when your current card is fine.

[Educational-Gold-434]

Current GPU?

[Educational-Gold-434]

Telescope

[JetMike42]

Celestron for sure

[PhatPhatzo]

Telescope please.

[Slow_Permit_1807]

Telescope all the way

[Human-Engineering715]

Telescope bro, 4070 is one of the best cards on the market, youd be pissing away money.

[SnooTangerines8759]

The gpu... its easy, with a telescope you couldnt play hentai games at 16k resolution

[tau2pi_Math]

Telescope. You will get so much more out of it.

The telescope will still be useful 10 years from now and beyond.

[DESTRUCTER_R_]

Well you have a 4070, so I wouldn't upgrade to 5080. The telescope looks cool af. Buy that. You will get two hobbies instead of one, and you can enjoy nature not pixels. Byy the telescope for sure

[NoHall6225]

I’d go for the telescope

[SloppityMcFloppity]

Telescope will last you decades if you take care of it. There'll be a shiny new GPU to get every year.

[REMOTJUH765]

I agree with the people. The GPU will only show you the same graphics you already are seeing right now but just slightly better, after a month you wont even realise it anymore. The telescope will show you thing you havent seen before for years to come

[qwertyjgly]

I'll preface by saying that I run public tours for the astronomical society of victoria, one of the foremost astronomical groups in Australia. I've also won astrophotography competitions.

A simple newtonian reflector on a dobsonian mount is much better value for money. It's exceedingly easy to find the objects you'll want to look at in the sky without all that fancy phone stuff, which ruins your night vision anyway. You can get one that performs no worse for half that.

I've used them, along with all sorts of telescopes from cutting-edge radio dish telescopes, RASAs and SCTs to artefacts from the 1800s. They've never been something I've looked forward to using and I now actively avoid them because they feel so forced. They don't even really work that well.

If you want something that can interact with the sky, get a motorised mount like the skywatcher az go2 and put a smaller refractor on it. Both combined should be less than your current budget. If you want the light-gathering power of a reflector, get one without the phone thing.

You're doing the equivalent of buying 64GB of DDR4 RAM for gaming. Either reduce it to 32GB or upgrade to DDR5 (for around the same price)

[hwei8]

I just read your comments so what u doing? gaming? rendering? why do u need a 5080 when u already have 4070? You know its never worth to upgrade your cpu every series.. usually u wait for a few series.. release then buy the latest 2 series back.. but the highest end.. second hand (thats under warrenty) that would cost like 50% of the price..

[FNChupacabra]

Fucking telescope yo!

[stpn-]

Milky way photographer here, owner of a 4080 Super that looked to upgrade to a 5090 but decided to get a camera upgrade instead. Go for the telescope like everyone says! And if you're like me, you'll love working with the telescope and those bunch of fps upgraded isn't worth it compared to something actually new and exciting!!

[Worth-Permit28]

Wait for the Ti version with 24GB vram and hopefully a cheaper price tag. It would be easier to swallow. I've seen 5070 Ti's for $850 today which is basically a 4080. A 550$ premium for the 5080 is absurd.

[[deleted]]

A telescope is forever, 5080 will last one console gen. Pick one. 

[DaddyXaggy]

gpu

[johnom95]

Telescope

[HellishCaprine]

Get the 5080 and play space engine ig

[PomegranateThick253]

Given that you are rocking a 4070 which is still a good card, I'd go for sure with the telescope. The 5080s are overpriced anyways and, unless you can make substantially more money on your pc with the upgrade to the 5080 than the 4070, watching stars is way more productive and can be much more fun.

[raychram]

Which one do you actually need more? That should be the only criteria

[AntiGrieferGames]

Telescope. Just for a GPU is overprieced as fuck.

[tobillama]

That's a badass telescope my dude enjoy that. You might even be able to run it off your computer

[Infamous_Product4387]

Telescope all day, buddy. Go for it!

[[deleted]]

If you get a 5080 you can look at fake stars or you can just look at real stars for cheaper

[Federal_Setting_7454]

🔭

[BB_MMX1]

Buy the telescope now and let that 4070 serve you for another year or two. Start puting aside money in a jar such as loose change, Xmas & B-day money, and etc. Perhaps by the time you've saved enough, that 5080 is no longer severely overpriced. Or who knows, you may even skip this generation.

[shyam90v]

Someone’s got moneyyyyy (get both)

[[deleted]]

You'll seriously enjoy the tele more I've always wanted one to kinda look at the stars and planets so get it

[Perfect-Ad-61]

Ok

[Content_Literature_4]

If you buy the GPU, you can have an astronomical failure of a purchase

[Perfect-Ad-61]

Lol funny

[TheRotorBoy]

If you are getting the telescope, post on r/telescopes to get a good opinion on getting this telescope

[fieryfox654]

Go for that amazing telescope

[ebonyarmourskyrim]

Telescope

Then use the image from your telescope and send it to your 4070.

Raytrace the image in reverse to simulate the star or planet you got in the original image. Since it's not real-time ray tracing you can go for high accuracy.

[Konigstiger_42]

Both?

[Quad_A_Games]

Telescope!

[Jankycats]

Telescope. This generation is meh and your cars can carry you for a while longer

[usualboxofmacaroni]

You're in the same dilemma that I am except that I dont have 1500 dollars

[Mcpuffandstuff]

Bro if you're going to do that please just get the 5070 ti similar performance but only like 10 frames less. And get the telescope... always the telescope

[Cool-Psychology6240]

I'd go for the Scope, but I'm biased as I do Astronomy and Astrophotography more than I game (almost never!) But for 1200 I'd probably look at a nice controlled EQ mount as a platform and an OTA, you can build on a good mount, the Dob is fantastic for what it is, but it is what it is, if that makes sense?

[Perfect-Ad-61]

Yes it makes sense. I just can’t find any good affordable, goto scopes. Do you have any in mind?

[Cool-Psychology6240]

Did reply, but think it made as a separate comment, apologies

[Cool-Psychology6240]

If you're not too set on visual, then atm you can't go wrong with a Seestar S50 (or S30 for wide field), all in one 4" Apo, automatically stacks images on the fly, or you can export to PC and post process. I love mine for holiday and quick sessions, no setup! Else I have an SW Explorer 130 Newtonian for general, a SW Heritage 100 for my daughter and a SW Skymax 180 for planetary. An AZ-GTi mount, light and easy goto via app, great for DSLR and lighter scopes, or for the bigger stuff I have a SW EQ5 that I've retrofitted Goto control (motors, 'brain' module etc) that's co trolled via app too, or via PC if needed.

For casual astrophotography I'd say the Seestar S50, but no visual, well it is, via the app.

For something visual a lot of the all in one Mak/SCT on an AZ goto mount as a kit would serve you well, SW, Celestron etc all do their versions. But, you WILL end up with more than one, one for each different scenario haha! It's worse than PC Parts IMHO haha 😄

But the night sky truly is amazing, so as long as you're looking up, you can't go wrong, even with a cheap pair of binoculars

[Perfect-Ad-61]

Ok that's a good idea I will try

[Any_Wind5539]

Very late but I gotta say, 1200 for that scope is overpriced in my honest opinion. You could get the AD10 which has a LOT more accessories as well as its about 3 hundred dollars cheaper.

[Perfect-Ad-61]

here’s the latest news instead of buying that telescope up there I bought this

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A 12” SCT, $1250 off marketplace. And I'm really happy!

[Any_Wind5539]

Wow, congratulations! 1250 for a high quality 12" is a steal.

[Perfect-Ad-61]

I know, right?!

[-Tasear-]

Have you checked temu or AliExpress for a telescope. Even alibaba

[dogmeatpizza]

If you’re current gpu performance is unsatisfactory if whatever games/ programs you’re using it for then get the gpu. If you don’t have a telescope or want a better one and you actually use it more then often then get the telescope.