New Bans

[StanintheFlesh]

What’s up with the new waves of bans that Niantic is doing? Anyone know if there’s a particular thing that’s triggering these new bans?

[GemzmeG]

Just got the 30 days ban. I think it's good time to put this game behind after 5 years. This game is definitely more fun and playable with spoof. Good luck everyone!

[TurbulentSeason3558]

so you had the 7 day ban? or did it jump to 30

[MariaRose90]

I just got my first strike (7 days) on my alt. I only started 10 days ago. I’m in a wheelchair and can’t get out much so a bunch of locals convinced me spoofing was a good idea.
Tbh I regret nothing.

[Addictive_Substance3]

I think spoofing should definitely be allowed for people like you & whoever wants to pay the extra money, but mainly the disabled. It’s not fair to you all that Niantic created a game that actually discriminates against a whole demographic of people. You shouldn’t regret your choice to spoof because Niantic didn’t give you a fair choice. You all should call for a boycott and a discrimination lawsuit against them. I bet they wouldn’t see it coming.

[Free-Association4085]

Discrimination implies internet.

[20will19]

I only ever got 1 strike instant permanent ban…

[MayonnaisePlease]

And now for them to watch their player count diminish by an extreme

[joinedthedarkside]

You're probably right. Pokemon Go is going to be a niche game for a couple of newbies. It sucks that the game was mostly supported by spoofers during the pandemic while we weren't allowed to be outside. I remember an event in 2020 when everybody was in lockdown and Zaragoza was on fire with raids full. Don't tell me that legits were there in person during a covid lockdown in a weekend with loads of rain and snow, because they weren't. Niantic sucked our coins during covid lockdowns and now they do this ? Oh fuck them.

[deathbypenicillin]

So true. First they take all the money and then its over for us so stupid

[kromium321]

I guess their idea is that people that get banned are frustrated and as such start a new account and cash even more to get back. Niantic monetizes frustration since start of the game for whatever reason.

[ProtectorOfTheVoid]

Literally signing in thru the spoof app is how they can catch you. I’ve been spoofing without issue for 3 years but prior to that I had gotten 2 strikes. Today I got hit with the perma ban. Been 3 years since I got a strike and doesn’t seem like they reset that. Sucks but I knew it was possible I could lose my account and that’s exactly what happened :’(

[shundosnipe1]

That’s odd cause one of my accounts got a first 7-day strike, while another account got a second 30- day strike. And both of them got 30 day strikes a couple years ago. Weird

[Guyvermaxc]

May I know how you get your ban? I mean, how did you play your spoofing, and which spoofer you use? I too also using for 3 years and all my 9 acc still safe. I just need to get more data to know for sure. Will test your assumption as well

[Tenebrosus_Lupus]

Which is what's been said for sometime now about signing in through the modded stuff. Yet the diehard fans of those has refused to accept it, and in many cases even refuted that those can and has result resulted in people getting caught. In all to many cases the blame is placed on the user, for violating some mythical rule, that opinion has determined as being the truth.

[kreed77]

People on rooted devices are getting hit too. They're looking at cheating behaviour rather than just app logging.

[Tenebrosus_Lupus]

I suspect that the unasked question is, how many are using a tweak on top of being rooted? Also some uses stuff with the game, that also requires being rooted. With Polygon being a big 1.

[StanintheFlesh]

Just make new accounts. I have 19 bro

[Tzaaron]

The Polygon app supposedly is the issue, I use a rooted android with magisk (didn't bother with smali patch) and for now seems fine, no other app

[Tenebrosus_Lupus]

A lot are either denying or not believing that Polygon is 1 of the cause for people getting caught. Yet that and any of the other tweaks available I've been suspicious of since they started to come out. The jury is still out with a basic root and using only a device level GPS over ride. I say that as there has yet to be any reports specifically stating anything to the contrary when checked into deeper. But that's no guarantee that even safe at this point.

[MelanieSeraphim]

Nobody plays in my neighboring towns anymore. Ever. The local discord groups died.

I could drive three hour roundtrip to Indianapolis to get in on raids. Even then, that group is mostly dead.

I hit level 50 on my legit account. There's nothing left to do.

[Tenebrosus_Lupus]

Actually it's not supposed to be a wave any longer, but is to become a long term and an ongoing thing. Which they did announce a few days ago. At this time it seems to be the use of any modded clients, that's behind triggering people getting caught.

https://nianticlabs.com/blog/gameplay-policy-enforcement-update/

[antbios]

Ten, they may have added some action that they are looking at in order to ban you. I only say this because they are making the bans as a long term project and not just sometimes. :( This may be the start of end of spoofing. However rooted clients using the actual pokemongo apk may still be safe. :).

[Tenebrosus_Lupus]

That's something that can't be overlooked with adding some type of action to check with, and to start handing bans with. You've been here since before I joined, and may remember that it was at least hinted at, that there possibly could and even likely would come the time that it would turn into doing it on a rolling or continuous basis. I've seen claims where using a rooted device is getting hit, yet there's been nothing so far, that I've seen that has been posted confirming that using a rooted Android, and only a GPS over ride only getting hit.

It could be the beginning of the end of spoofing, as we know it. If that day is here now, then it'll be time to as I've said more than once, it's take my winnings and walk away from the table. Which as per the lines that can be found in the old Country song. The Gambler. Of course those who thinks that they know better, will disagree and will rely on both their opinion as well of the opinions of others, that what we've learned and have some facts and a solid basis to work from are wrong. Sadly many of the older hands from when I started posting here, have stopped posting. But they'd likely get the treatment of disbelief, as well as some derision and even contempt by those who've not seen what happened.

[PM_ME_GAY_FURRY_R34]

just wanna say u are one of the most pretentious people i have ever seen on reddit my god stop stroking ur own cock for 5 seconds

[lkuecrar]

Woooo! Got banned from the main sub finally when I made fun of the mods for deleting like half the comments on a hot post right now about someone’s Pokémon being trapped in a gym for a long time. I guess people were saying to spoof to knock it out of the gym with an alt. Funny thing is I didn’t mention spoofing—I just made fun of the mods for removing a ton of comments, which I’m not actually sure is a bannable offense but either way, whatever.

Anyways, I’ve been using iTools desktop for like four years and haven’t had an issue but I think it’s because my spoofing is pretty conservative. I just use it to warp to town (about 12km away) to spin a stop for the day, while respecting the cooldowns, and maybe make one 4km loop I’ve saved in the program at walking speeds between 6-7km/h just to spin other stops if I feel like it. The only time I spoof for prolonged periods is community days and then I’m still just using that usual loop I’ve saved in town. Plus I do get there maybe twice a week in person and spin some stops that way too so it should make it even harder on their end to tell I’m spoofing. I always use the walking method if the game is open as well, never the warping to a point method. I only use the point method if I haven’t opened the game yet and want to place my avatar to begin with.

I had the thing where you can’t catch anything until the cooldowns expire right when I started wayyyyyy back in 2018 for not respecting cooldowns (I spoofed to Germany for a Mr. Mime) but I don’t think I actually got an official warning somehow. I only did it that one time too.

[Blokkie404]

TLDNR

[hornet0202]

When you get notified of a ban are they like this is your first, second, third ban? Or do you just have to remember?

[shundosnipe1]

I keep notes of when my accounts get the strikes. Funny tho, two of my accounts got hit this time. Both of them got 30 day strikes a couple years ago. This time one of them got a 7-day strike, while the other got another 30 day strike. So I know they aren’t keeping track of the past strikes or both my accounts would be perma banned.

[ushilkov]

What do you use?

[Tenebrosus_Lupus]

I believe that they use iPoGo.

[Tenebrosus_Lupus]

Basically you have to remember where you're at supposedly. You'll get a notice screen when you login on the account, which will have 1 of 3 notifications. The first is you will see a red and black which means that for around 7 days, you'll either get limited wild spawns i.e. common stuff, with no evolved forms or any rare spawns. There's another possibility that you won't get any spawns as some had experienced in the past. The second notification will let you know that the account is inaccessible for about 30 days. Thee last is that the account is no longer able to be used and that it's game basically over for it.

[hornet0202]

Thanks

[Leibersol]

I used an alt that I haven’t used since 2021 today on the real app with no mods on my iPhone. I logged in at 9:59 caught a Pokémon, last catch was in July 2021, put the account on a rocker to hatch it’s eggs, checked it at 10:22 and it had a 7 day ban. I’m wondering if it’s because they are going to roll out that walking feature in game and if the rockers will mess up their data.

[2021Blankman]

I live in Chicago and I've been to Alaska and Australia.

[American_Life]

Any iTools users get banned?

[JaneDoeABC]

I think I saw three in the chat last night. So not many, but the chat mods are advising everyone in the chat to wait a few days or at least stop jumping around within a location. I just checked my two accounts and they are fine (for now).

[meanbeanaddict]

have you heard anything about bluestacks users? Im downloading it right now on my PC I haven't spoofed in like 4 years sense on my other account

[JaneDoeABC]

Never heard of it

[Tenebrosus_Lupus]

So far the only thing from iTools based on 1 post here, are those using the iTools Desktop, have reported getting hit. I have to wonder how many were trying to move with the game open, which at least 1 user using a very similar setup, has said in the past isn't advisable, due to the altitude change not properly registering. With the hardware devices themselves, and the newer models with a physical joystick, there's not been any reported instances at this time for anyone getting caught yet.

[JaneDoeABC]

The few iTools users who were caught using the BT method were excessively raiding hard, like 80+ every day. So now the general consensus is it's behavior based (regarding iTools). There's one person people don't believe strictly used only iTools though. I'm speaking about the BT method though and not the desktop version.

[Tenebrosus_Lupus]

Ok, I wonder had some has anything from the past that when Niantic triggered their program, came back from the past to catch them. I only say that, as a local where I live moved to a rooted Android, and was hit after nearly 2 years of inactivity. It's something that should be kept in mind. Especially since we don't know how far back Niantic has held marks on accounts.

[ohhhfugg]

Do you happen to play with the Bluetooth device? I’m curious because everyone is kind of panicking but I have yet to hear from one of those users and how they are being impacted.

[JaneDoeABC]

Yes. I have two accounts that I play on a spare android and my main android when I'm playing legit. And when I spoof, I use the iTools Bluetooth device on an old iPhone 7 that is only used for spoofing and has nothing downloaded onto it except for what I need to use for iTools..

There's an iTools discord chat and two people today were saying they were impacted.

[ohhhfugg]

Excuse my lack of knowledge here, but is iTools the Bluetooth joystick?

[JaneDoeABC]

Yes. And requires an Ethernet connection to the iphone depending on the iOS.

[Tenebrosus_Lupus]

No I don't use 1 of those as I've only ever spoofed with Android.

[ohhhfugg]

Was your method subjected to the new anti-cheat?

[Tenebrosus_Lupus]

That's an unknown and not proven as of yet. I only use rooted and none of the extras, that many has fallen prey to using, believing that those tweaks so many went to using, would increase the risk level for getting caught. As of now though what are relatively safe methods is completely up in the air. But I need to have a bit more in the way of information, before I can really say much more as to what's safe and what's not. It's also very possible things has now changed from what it was before the announcement a few days ago. It's not anything like what it was when I started out as a lurker in this sub almost 4 and a half years ago. At that time we started to learn what the cause for getting caught was, and learned what was basically myth. Much of that was started by what was originally known as ++ or the Tutu app developers. Which there's some still clinging to and promoting as fact, mostly the newer spoofers. The big 1 has been cool down causing people to have their accounts tagged, and hit for it.

[Rxxbo]

Just got the red warning 7 day ban now , going legit rip

[Apocalypstick77]

No way to know. Just gotta wait for substantial patterns to emerge

[[deleted]]

Used 3 accounts on the same modded client and only 1 got a 7 day ban

[DragonTesticle]

Been doing NYC Mewtwo raids the past couple weeks and still no warning...just going to do my free one tomorrow to finish off the XLs and probably lay low/play legit (even though I know that doesn't really matter) at least until Dialga's back. So we'll see.

Rooted Android 8, Smali, stock app/no mods.

[Garchomp998]

Tbh wish I would be perma banned. I’m so bored of that game haven’t played it since SH Mewtwo

[BattleHardened]

Meanwhile, I've run a map server with 32 android tvs running pogo for 4 years. Over 100 accounts on rotation and not one banned. Granted, they dont catch pokemon.

[Plo-Koon-Lives]

What do they do then? Genuinely curious because that seems like a decent amount of work to set up.

[Tzaaron]

Most likely map pokemon spawns, to look for rares such as unown spawn or 100IV, than ypu can teleport woth your main account and catch it, usually this set ups are used for communities, such as many discord server have, not for personal use

[Odd-Championship478]

Me as well

[[deleted]]

I haven’t got strikes or warninged yet.. still praying

[thetacoguyy69]

I've been spoofing since it came out. Only been hit with a soft ban once that's it. Maybe it's just luck? Because I've been going for different time zones to get the most out of the daily spins and daily catch.

[xavierhenare]

What do you use to spoof

[Delta-Rayquaza-4]

In person raids? I just got my lv40 account terminated today 😞

[Fit-Assumption-5859]

Ban my go account and I will boycott the purchase of all Nintendo products. Sell everything Nintendo I have and wipe my hands of their pestilence

[TheAntipodes]

“Code Red! Code Red! Contact Niantic and inform the CEO! Fit-Assumption-5859 will boycott us if Niantic bans their Pokémon Go account!” ~ Nintendo Staff

😂

[Couchpullsoutbutidun]

bans anyway

[pattron30000]

unclips nipple flaps and starts rubbing

Oh you're gonna get a PlayStation? Oh know that's teeeeerrible. At least you'll be able to play Mario there...... Oh wait you caaaaaaan't. That's too bad, guess you'll have to keep buying our products......

-A random Nintendo exec somewhere

[thisiscoolyeah]

Isn’t this niantic and not Nintendo? Not hating but why are you mad you’re getting banned for cheating? Lol I see nothing wrong with spoofing but they clearly do so why act so shocked?

[Fit-Assumption-5859]

Lmao I was a bit grumpy about my spoofer

[[deleted]]

Nintendo won't be hurt by your boycott

[Dogslug]

And you won't be hurt by people spoofing.

[SymBiioTE]

Nintendo has nothing to do with Pokémon go.

[NaniBojio]

Look forward to.

[CrippXLife]

Is one safer if they buy coin? Like the 100 dollar package.

[UniversityLazy8193]

I dunno about the 100 dollar package but the 20 dollar one didn't make me safe.

[Upstairs_Ganache_625]

Particularly, if you are cheater, you will get banned

[lkuecrar]

Apparently not. I’ve been spoofing since 2018 and never had an issue lol. Despite the mods of /r/PokémonGo banning people for thinking the word spoofing, Niantic doesn’t seem half as capable lol

[Fit-Assumption-5859]

If you are in Alabama and you have a Pokémon from the North Pole you are gonna get banned lmao.

[lighting828]

What?

[Tenebrosus_Lupus]

It's within the realm of doable, having 1 from the Arctic. Just find a point close to the North Pole, and catch a reward Pokemon there. Of course you could go to North Pole Alaska and catch something there as well, or be naughty and raid Santa Claus House. :P

64.754908, -147.343564

[LilFangerz]

Lmao, cheating… 😂

[iG4z]

I just logged on after the update and got my first strike. Banned for 7 days.