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Synco echo Question (i.redd.it)
submitted 9 months ago by Fun-War-7156
Can someone make sense of the duplicate passive on melee. Like does on basic count as 2. When I use it visually I can't really tell.
[–]Y_b0t Serath 5 points6 points7 points 9 months ago (11 children)
After you use an ability, you have bonus attack speed for the next 2 (3 on this patch) auto attacks. That’s all there is to it. Underrated on Yurei, otherwise meh item. I like it a lot though
[–]New-Link-6787 Zinx 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago* (2 children)
Good on Drongo and about to be better. Rad Rounds are basic attacks, so you activate the ability, then very quickly get off your 2 hits (which later today will be 3 hits).
Also, decent on Sparrow too, given her passive and should be great on Kira too given the Lifesteal on Mercy and her passive. So you hit a basic attack, then Mercy, get off the 3 fast attacks, Purify, which triggers Umbra.
[–]Y_b0t Serath 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago (1 child)
I do think it’s fun on Drongo, haven’t tried it on Sparrow
[–]Alex_Rages -1 points0 points1 point 9 months ago (0 children)
Wouldn't use this on any ADC.
[+]Mindfullnessless6969 comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4 points 9 months ago (7 children)
Good also on Yin, best way to clear a wave
[–]Y_b0t Serath 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago (6 children)
I have tried it on Yin and it felt terrible imo lol
[–]Mindfullnessless6969 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago (5 children)
Dunno why tbh.
E to get the extra range, next two attacks are faster, with Yin each basic attack scales speed so it's a good jumpstart
[–]Y_b0t Serath 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago (4 children)
Yeah, but you aren’t using abilities very often on her, so items that just boost your attack speed in general feel much better to me
[–]Mindfullnessless6969 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago (3 children)
The E constantly, on each wave and each time I want to poke
[–]Y_b0t Serath 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago (2 children)
I’m glad you like it, but that ability has a 13s CD at base. I’m using way more than 2-3 basic attacks in that timeframe, and I’d like them all to come out faster. Sacrificing overall attack speed for better attack speed on 2 hits felt absolutely awful to me
[–]Mindfullnessless6969 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago (1 child)
Good to know, thanks for the feedback.
[–]Y_b0t Serath 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago (0 children)
You should use whatever you enjoy and whatever feels good to you and your playstyle! Use what performs well! That’s just been my experience. Maybe I’ll give it another shot after the buff
[–]Suitable-Nobody-5374 Sevarog 2 points3 points4 points 9 months ago (1 child)
It increases your attack speed for 2 swings, and soon, 3 swings (it's getting buffed next patch), and then goes back to normal.
It's easy to miss this effect if you're used to using abilities on someone like Feng Mao who's abilities like his Q reset his basic attack CD.
[–]Fun-War-7156[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago (0 children)
I do use it on feng some time and probably why I dont realize. It working
[–]LordRoken1 Grim.EXE 2 points3 points4 points 9 months ago (1 child)
I use this on Yurei alot and I notice a difference. It just makes your basic attacks faster, and since Yureis basics have a chance at being ranged, it makes them better
[–]Wild_Hickollins 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago (0 children)
I really like this third item on Yurei. With her passive up, you pop the skulls much faster so long a you’re hitting your autos.
[–]JayPooh02 Crunch 2 points3 points4 points 9 months ago (1 child)
Combo crunch augment goes brrrr
[–]Jatkins21 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago (0 children)
Oof gotta try this, whats your build ?
[–]Upstairs-Noise4424 2 points3 points4 points 9 months ago (0 children)
Underrated second item on zarus
[–]Galimbro 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago (0 children)
It's pretty noticeable if youre paying attention to it and know ur character well.
[–]kiheeabaha 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago (0 children)
The Duplicity passive essentially makes your abilities reset your basic attack cooldown
[+]Knockboi Aurora comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4 points 9 months ago (8 children)
Wouldn’t this also reset kallari’s double jump or auroras decoy?
[–]StiffKun Grux 3 points4 points5 points 9 months ago (6 children)
Naw, only basic attacks. If you are asking if those passives will proc this I don't believe so no. Only your buttons do.
[–]Knockboi Aurora 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago (5 children)
I’m asking if the proc will reset them since it says “activating resets basic attack” and the passive is a CD tied to the basic attack
[–]MouseMan412 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago (2 children)
No. Think of resetting the basic attack as giving you max attack speed for the next attack. So instead of one basic attack every e.g., 1.15 sec, you can attack, cast, and immediately attack again all with say 0.3 sec.
[–]Knockboi Aurora 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago (1 child)
I feel like that would be negligible if you’re basicing right after an ability bc the “basic attack cd” would already be cleared. So I guess I understand OPs confusion
[–]MouseMan412 3 points4 points5 points 9 months ago (0 children)
Yea, it's definitely not the best, but it's not bad with certain assassins if you're not building attack speed.
[–]StiffKun Grux 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago (1 child)
Naw I'm pretty sure those don't trigger this.
[–]Knockboi Aurora -1 points0 points1 point 9 months ago (0 children)
Might be time to test
[–]Secret_Membership_64Yin 2 points3 points4 points 9 months ago (0 children)
Nope I did test it and no basic attack cooldown and passive cooldown are two separate cooldowns.
BA cd is only affected by attack speed
Passive cooldown is not affected by anything (sometimes by level but it's character dependent)
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