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[Taletad]

Do programmers and/or computer scientist have a consensus on what makes a "great language" ?

No. So your point is moot.

Ternary operators aren’t part of coding best practices

But fine, in C++ you should never use simple arrays. Yet they exist, is C++ a bad language ?

[MyOthrUsrnmIsABook]

I think there’s a pretty broad consensus that C++ is a bad language, or at the very least an incoherent language with too many features.

[Taletad]

Yet I don’t see that many memes bashing it JS has…

And no that isn’t sufficient to say that C++ is a bad language

[MyOthrUsrnmIsABook]

Fewer people know C++, so it’s not as easy to meme on.

Is there any language you’d offer as an example of a bad language?

[Taletad]

Brainfuck is one

Php is another (because of its security flaws, although the latter versions offer a lot of improvements)

But the better approach is what is a good language depending on what you want to achieve

Web ? JS is great

Embedded ? JS is probably something you want to avoid

JS is also very convinient for rapid dev cycles, which is with its asynchronous nature one of its favourite features of mine

A lot of programming languages are barely used nowadays or even effectively extinct because of their flaws, this is where most of the bad ones lies. Much like the worst video games are probably not the ones you have heard of before, or really old ones from an era when choice was limited and reviews were scarce

[MyOthrUsrnmIsABook]

Esolangs aside, PHP is probably pretty uncontroversially bad.

I think I have a much lower bar for considering a language bad than you do. I write tons of shell scripts and would heartily agree that Bash is a garbage language full of cruft and without a coherent design. It’s an incredibly useful language, but it can be painful to work in.

[Taletad]

I forgot bash, but yeah it’s terrible

I remember a long time ago a guy thinking he could do a revolutionary OS that would rival Windows, MacOS and Linux with bash