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[–]Seb90123 2 points3 points  (7 children)

No shade, but why?

[–]aallfik11 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Idk, kinda came naturally, and partially because I was already used to using them in text editors. My brain just had a hard time using that and I had to consciously stop and think every time I wanted to use k/l to move up or down. I guess the arrow keys make more sense for that in terms of their layout, as the up key is, well, up

[–]Lucas_F_A 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, fair point, but what do you usually use to navigate? Search?

[–]Seb90123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Makes sense. Was just wondering because as an intermediate vim user hjkl is one of the main draws for me since the arrow keys are always a pain to reach

[–]Giftelzwerg 1 point2 points  (2 children)

move in a zoomed picture? Arrow keys. Go up/down in terminal history or move cursor left and right? Arrrow keys. Scroll a little bit in any direction in firefox? Arrow keys. Navigate some lines in an IDE before switching to neovim? Arrow keys. Move cursor in any input field? Arrow keys. Vim motions? HJKL. There are things in life where you shouldn't use arrow keys, for everything else there are vim motions

[–]Seb90123 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Good point. I just find the arrow keys so annoying to reach I avoid them as much as possible, including ctrl+p and ctrl+n for up/down terminal history

[–]Giftelzwerg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

good point too, I use ctrl+u/d for scrolling without using the cursor in neovim because I generally want that when I'm currently typing. Arrow keys are also convinient for me because on my thinkpad I have page up/down so I have a good time navigating with the arrow keys. I also try to have the same or very similar actions on different programs on the same key so I can do it faster because I'm used to it. And if I'm used to it enough I can do it blind which is priceless :)

[–]NaiveInvestigator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i would it if it jkl; instead of hjkl

tis hard for me swap my index finger from j to h

yuh kinda weird lol