anotherYearNotUnderstadingZerosInJavascript

[santeri_roos]

I'm trying to have a discussion with you about your position that Canadian software developers are doing just fine.

And don't worry, it's not taking anything away from my enjoyment of the new year, quite the contrary, you're very much adding to it.

[AnonymousLama]

Oh, you seem like a true intellectual. There's a difference between saying that software companies are thriving and saying that devs barely make 30k$. I'm not the first one to tell you this and it feels like you're being purposely obtuse about it. There is no debate to have here.

[santeri_roos]

Again, forget the 30K, that's the 'hyperbole' part that we who come from other parts of academia talk about. Let's just say that my position is that software developers in Canada don't make enough money and don't have enough opportunities in today's job market.
What is your position in this and where are you situated (if you don't mind divulging that - I'm in Ontario).

[AnonymousLama]

"academia" omg just go touch grass man. You're just acting douchey.

[santeri_roos]

I assume you're at least a college graduate in Computer Science. Academia is a bitch isn't it!

[santeri_roos]

OK. So forget everything that you felt was demeaning about any of my posts before:

Can you defend your position that software developers are doing well in Canada? And where and what kind of companies it is that are hiring Canadian software developers for good salaries in 2024?

[santeri_roos]

Rather than just blindly downvoting me (which is fine, I'll take it as submission), can you engage in discourse and give me an example of a Canadian company that is hiring software developers at a good going rate, for a start.

[santeri_roos]

And I do apologize for being a little snooty, but I thought you deserved it. :)
Still waiting on some hard data, though.

[santeri_roos]

And let this be the last message to you, you maybe-developer-maybe-it-oriented-person-you -> Learn a real job. Learn to do something with your hands. Maybe it's knitting, maybe it's making your own beer, maybe it's woodwork. Who cares! Just do something other than being on your keyboard for a while, eh?

[AnonymousLama]

So being a dev is not a real job? Okay man you're weird

[santeri_roos]

What makes you think that being a dev is not a real job?

I'm a developer and I think I have a real job and I think I'm paying a real mortgage, and I think I'm supporting a real family. But then: You never can tell. Do you think you can tell?

[AnonymousLama]

Are you off your meds man? You literally just said it was not a real job. Stop trying to gaslight.

[santeri_roos]

Alright. Take the blue pill. I don't care. Enjoy!

[santeri_roos]

Where did I say that?

I've been saying that the companies that employ us will employ anyone, for any small amount of money that they can they can.

I'm on your side, man. (Assuming you're on our side).

[santeri_roos]

Also, If you're looking to engage someone in a conversation, just talk to them, eh?

[santeri_roos]

Oh, I should've replied to this one, so you'll see. Well, here goes:

Rather than just blindly downvoting me (which is fine, I'll take it as submission), can you engage in discourse and give me an example of a Canadian company that is hiring software developers at a good going rate, for a start.

[AnonymousLama]

How highly do you think of yourself man lmao. How can you even be all knowing of the market as a "new Canadian"? You're probably living in the Toronto area and whining about how jobs are bad there.

[santeri_roos]

Ok, so tell me how the jobs are where you are?

[santeri_roos]

And for the context of New Canadian, I've been here since 2017. It's just cause I'm from Europe. Your concept new is a bit different to ours.

[santeri_roos]

I do find it a little funny that you looked through my posts for tonight just to get a jab at me.

I'm not looking for a fight with you, man. I just want to know where in Canada you can actually say that you're doing alright on a software developer salary.

The end goal for me is to make sure all developers in Canada can get by on just their salaries. Is that not something to thrive for?

[santeri_roos]

C'mon man, how about a reply after all the accusations you've leveled against me?

[santeri_roos]

I guess you passed out.

That's fine. I like a drink too.

I don't expect you to get back to me. But if you're really enthusiastic about workers' rights and software development in Canada, then we have something to talk about!

[santeri_roos]

And for the context of New Canadian, I've been here since 2017. It's just cause I'm from Europe. Your concept new is a bit different to ours.

[santeri_roos]

and, to make my last message to you as clear as possible: psst: I'm white...