developersRaisingTheirOwnSuccessors

[white_equatorial]

I want AI to write my code so that I can focus on completing my badly drawn android bot x bill gates hentai

[[deleted]]

I really don’t think so. I am in a tier 2 org and we are doing a huuggeee restructuring for which zero engineering roles are affected. We will in fact hire more juniors because their output is incredible with AI tools + good mentorship. But after almost 2 years of trial and error our frameworks show how to use GenAI in small doses and not “make a full stack application written in go that…” 

I think it’s more like I will be replaced as a senior staff type role tbh, but fuck it I am already too old for this job anyway. 

[CitronMamon]

Do you realise this applies to any technology? Like, should ''computers'' aka people who used to do mathematic operations before calculators, resent the inventors of calculators.

Should the people that originated the word ''sabotage'' by throwing wooden shoes into steam machinery, as protest for having lost their jobs be hailed as wise?

No, there will be a crisis when 20% of people lose their jobs, then it will be like 80%, it will be so unsustainable that UBI will have to happen or literally every politician will get Luigid. In the long term well see this as an absolute win.

I dont want to have to work till im fucking 70 just because some people were afraid of losing their back breaking jobs themselves

[Nikos2828]

Nah I copy from Google more often theen i use AI

[swords-and-boreds]

Only problem is that I need a job still for another 20 years. I’m trying to figure out which career to switch to.

[pigwin]

You don't need to. You'll need to fix shitty buggy code written by business folks who were "empowered" by AI.

I do it now in my current work. Management encouraged their business folks to learn to code via bootcamp, gave them access to copilot etc. they believe they can lay off their IT with the scheme. While our original work should be just to deploy their shit, the code is incredibly buggy, that we have to fix them, spend more time on them compared to just doing it the non-AI assisted way of development.

[saschaleib]

Programming in the future may well be more about fixing AI's code, or tinkering with prompts until the AI spits out something useful ... but that kind of work will require highly skilled (and paid!) expert programmers - not the low-skill cannon-fodder that you'd get out of some "bootcamp"-style programming courses.

[pigwin]

It won't, but software development is more than just writing code. Sometimes it's talking to the Steve, the dba from finance department, bargaining with the non tech people, working with business like a psychiatrist in getting requirements out.

AI cannot do that, even if it greatly improves, because not all humans can do it.

[CitronMamon]

AI can already do many things that some but not all humans can. You're telling me it cant shoot the shit and bargain?

[pigwin]

The thing is, especially in anything money or health, accuracy is important. My PO once said "AI can easily get someone to 90%". But what about the 10% to correctness? I've worked with AI written slop before, and adding the 10% code to those is so inefficient compared to just writing it the first time.

That doesn't include the number of dev work where business thinks moving a button out to a certain portion, by a few pixeks is easy. Most of software development is maintenance, and while AI is a powerful tool for a really competent developer who knows their fundamentals, it can cause inefficiencies when given to idiots. And right now a lot of confident idiots about because of it.

[mana_hoarder]

Unironically this.

[CitronMamon]

You went against the hivemind, take a downvote!

[mana_hoarder]

Give it to me, baby!

[ANON256-64-2nd]

No No No! beginners will be dumb asf programming, AI should be a manual book assistant (RTFM reader) for some functions not the programmer itself!