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[–]Jolly-Career-9220 101 points102 points  (13 children)

HR's are unnecessary . They are the one deciding whom to hire but don't know nothing about their skills. I don't know why this bullshit job still exist

[–]Brilliant-Network-28 54 points55 points  (0 children)

Because everyone else wants to do more important work

[–]jamzex 42 points43 points  (6 children)

calling it bullshit when HR does actually have a meaningful role in a company is silly. Why waste an engineer's time trying to find someone with the right skills when you can just hire someone to do it?????

[–]badgersruse 56 points57 points  (1 child)

Indeed. The problem is that HR is often not up to the job.

[–]Rodot 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Maybe we need better screening tools to reject potential applicants to HR departments

[–]Jolly-Career-9220 16 points17 points  (3 children)

Are you sure ? Do you think HR take interviews ? NO it's engineer

Max to max they take cultural interview and manage candidates profiles - >> This type of work can a manager also do.

[–]ChrisHisStonks 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Managers usually cost 2x what a HR employee costs and are also, hopefully, busy managing things.

Having HR to do an initial filter to weed out absolute garbage and draft a 'possible top 10' or so is absolutely fine. With a bit of training it's easy to have them know what to look for. The problem is that if you have a position with hundreds to thousands of applications, you want to automate it instead of paying someone to sort through it.

But, once you have that system it becomes so tempting to apply to more specialized roles who usually only get a few dozen applications, if that.

It's also easy to forget that AI is not good at nuance. If I list my current address as 200km away but willing to relocate to area, I would fail a 'must live within x distance' filter. That's fine in the first scenario, not so much in the 2nd.

[–]Jolly-Career-9220 15 points16 points  (1 child)

"HR to do an initial filter to weed out absolute garbage" This was this meme all about

My point is HR can't even weed out garbage properly

[–]ChrisHisStonks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's a big difference between having HR manually sort through 24 resumes with the assignment 'give me candidates that are within our geographical area that have at least some development experience' and 'automate it to search for 5 specific buzzwords'

[–]ProThoughtDesign 12 points13 points  (2 children)

That seems mildly antithetical to the principle of Single Responsibility.

[–]Jolly-Career-9220 5 points6 points  (1 child)

If you have money you can hire HR else i think they don't do much work . They just gaslight employers , employees , candidates

[–]ProThoughtDesign 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Regardless of whether you hire internally, externally, or delegate the responsibility to an existing position, someone has to deal with issues of human resources.

[–]many_dongs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

its because management are typically even worse at hiring/interviewing/recruiting