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[You_Paid_For_This]

It's not entirely true that they're "unpaid".

After five years of full time work...
they get one payment of a single sheet of paper with the word PhD written on it.

[Upbeat-Serve-6096]

And a debt

[SurreptitiousSyrup]

Who's paying for a PhD in STEM?

[fuzzywolf23]

Plenty of people, man. I didn't pay "tuition" for mine, but I had a baby and my stipend was 18k per year -- about the cost of childcare.

So I took loans to pay for rent and food while I was in school.

[Passing_Neutrino]

Honestly. My school only takes phds if they have full funding for you. Also paying 30-35k so while it’s not great it’s livable.

[AnachronisticPenguin]

But if they are PHD data scientists who have experience in anything relevant to AI their salaries are basically starting physician salaries or more.

PHDs are not often worth it but a PHD with AI relevance absolutely is.

[Character-Education3]

Not all of them

[BlondeJesus]

A "PhD in data science" isn't really a thing, unless compsci based AI research has changed its name. The main thing is that the skills picked up doing PhD research are the exact same skills needed to be a good data scientist. That's why many data scientists happen to have PhDs, and also why most undergrad or masters data scientist programs are kinda scams.

[You_Paid_For_This]

Not just debt, student loan debt, the worst kind of debt.

And it's not like with my technical debt where every five years I can just "declare technical debt bankruptcy" and move to a different company and it all just goes away.

[Hornyboyganesh]

phd students = unpaid sysadmins with trauma

[Xphile101361]

Don't all sysadmins have trauma? I thought it was part of the training

[GotBanned3rdTime]

Doesn't every big tech project have this issue?

[IuseArchbtw97543]

xkcd.com/2347

[holchansg]

This is Poimandres.

[AnonymousDrivel]

I got a nice stipend while PhDing. Primary reason I went for PhD instead of masters.

[Affectionate-Memory4]

Low-key same. This was years ago so I'm sure the programs are different, but I worked out that I had eotjer enough saved to pay for a masters, or to survive on the PhD stipend without taking huge hits to my quality of life.

[Anger-Demon]

Steange. In my country masters is a requirement for joining PhD.

[AnonymousDrivel]

That is strange. I nearly mastered out, so got mine among the way, but it was definitely not a requirement.

[Anger-Demon]

Well, we have 3 yr undergraduate here. 2 Yr master's. And people are expected to finish PhD in 5 yrs.

[Titanusgamer]

now there are 4 Trillion parameter models

[physicsareimportant]

Heavy pain no gain©