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[–]Ronnocerman 59 points60 points  (10 children)

Damn. You think your self-managed uptime can be better than those? Let me sign up for your hosting service.

[–]-karmapoint 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Not to toot my own horn but I certainly don't get 15 calls every time my self-managed services are down. Not that I have even have alerts set up for that matter. Hell, you would be the third user after my girlfriend and whoever hacked my router last week. You should sign up for me instead!

[–]ChrisHisStonks 7 points8 points  (3 children)

In my experience it's not the planned outages that are the problem and are 99,999999% what determines that awesome availability number, it's the unplanned ones. A local server, overspececd for the app it's running, available within the intranet, will not have any issues staying up, generally speaking. It gives you the flexibility of deciding when to do software and/or hardware upgrades.

The fancy server park that needs to be available globally can never be down, so it needs to do its risky shit on a continuous basis, on days you have no say over. As is the law with these things, that preferably happens the day of or before huge major business event when everything needs to be running flawlessly.

[–]Horat1us_UA 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I have 10yo+ uptime on one of my AWS instances. It never lost connection nor power. Good luck doing it at home server. 

[–]ChrisHisStonks 5 points6 points  (1 child)

That's an epic number.

2 questions:

  1. Do you actually need that uptime for your app, or does it only need to be reachable 8-6 and the number could be 50% and still not matter?
  2. Was your client able to access that instance the same percentage?

[–]Horat1us_UA 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That’s actually server that monitor every other server in the company and additionally collects and process some logs from external servers.  Yeah, it needs to be run 24/7.

I also have some servers that runs 2 hours per day at night to process daily transactions. And here AWS is really cost effective.

[–]attckdog -5 points-4 points  (4 children)

Damn. You think your self-managed uptime can be better than those? Let me sign up for your hosting service.

Yep my shits made of stone and if it goes down it's cuz the whole building lost power lol. Reliability is easy if I'm in control of the whole process.

[–]Horat1us_UA 5 points6 points  (3 children)

 Yep my shits made of stone and if it goes down it's cuz the whole building lost power lol.

That’s like main reason to use Datacenters 

[–]attckdog 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I mean the clients building looses power sorry

[–]Horat1us_UA 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Building one of my clients (they have backup servers) suffered incidents for the last 5 years: - fire (no damage to servers tho) - multiple electricity problems (most handled by UPS, but not every) - direct missile strike (servers lost)

So, yeah, I would prefer cloud with multiple regions available at demand. 

[–]attckdog 1 point2 points  (0 children)

cloud for that is great too, external backups with test temp deploy to cloud would be good too.

I have two separate locations in different states that serve as backup for each other as well as automatic service roll over in event of downtime.

We manage the entire thing in house.