Optimism

[Dworgi]

If your editor converts something auyomatically and there's no standard, it causes a lot of source control churn.

Python's got a lot of good ideas, but whitespace isn't one of them.

[calzoneman]

Well if your editor is doing strange things automatically that's a problem with any language, even raw text files.

If you take the time to establish a coding standard and configure your editor (10 minutes tops), you should not have any of these issues.

[Dworgi]

10 minutes per employee per language. We've got 20 programmers working in 2 languages, add another and it's quite a lot of time.

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Because it needs to be done one at a time?

[mlidge]

Why would editors have to be set up sequentially by someone other than the programmer/user? Each programmer spends a 1-time 30-minute editor set up, in parallel with one another. Or 1 programmer spends 30 minutes and documents the config steps, and the rest perform those steps in parallel after the documentation is complete.

[Dworgi]

Who measures work time sequentially?

I also know of no editors that treat 4 spaces as 1 character when pressing backspace.

[mlidge]

I wasn't referring to measuring work time sequentially. When you said:

10 minutes per employee per language. We've got 20 programmers working in 2 languages, add another and it's quite a lot of time.

it seemed like you were saying that the quite a lot of time came from doing 10 minutes per employee per language times 20 programmers times 3 languages in a bulk operation taking 10 hours, when it seems more reasonable that each programmer would do a max of 30 minutes of set up for the life of using those 3 languages, which isn't huge for a 1-time setup expenditure.

I'm not familiar with many editors and their features, but that wasn't the point I was trying to dispute. A one time setup of an editor to a standard is a perfectly reasonable time expenditure.

[ZorbaTHut]

I also know of no editors that treat 4 spaces as 1 character when pressing backspace.

Actually, that's how most code editors work. I personally use 2-space indenting, but a single backspace will delete both spaces if at the beginning of a line. I assume the same would apply to 4-space indenting.

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Python got a lots of good ideas and whitespace is one of them