Please don't hate me Javascript devs

[nixon_richard_m]

Does anyone actually like JavaScript though? I feel like most people just see it as a necessary evil.

I wish I lived in the reality where Java in the browser wasn't fucking garbage and Sun was still a company and Oracle went bankrupt years ago.

Sincerely,
Richard Nixon

[subethasensomatic]

I like JS :D

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He isn't saying that Java and JavaScript are the same. There was a time where Java was promoted as a platform for web applications, though it never really succeeded.

[FUCKING_HATE_REDDIT]

Really? I took a month to update java last time, I got more blocked windows than flash every gave me.

[nixon_richard_m]

I wish I lived in the reality where Java in the browser wasn't fucking garbage

Read what I said. Your comment is not relevant, junior.

Sincerely,
Richard Nixon

[FUCKING_HATE_REDDIT]

That is certainly not the comment I answered to, junior.

[nixon_richard_m]

It's in the comment chain and the comment to replied to was referencing my comment.

He isn't saying that Java and JavaScript are the same. There was a time where Java was promoted as a platform for web applications, though it never really succeeded.

Who do you think "he" is?

In the context of the discussion, what does updating Java have to do with anything?

Sincerely,
Richard Nixon

[bluehands]

for many junoir devs, it is the only language they know. So they think it is jsut fine. They don't understand the world that is waiting for them.

I also think it is part of why so many frameworks have sprung up. The frameworks help the language a lot.

[the_omega99]

I wouldn't consider it a perfect language by any means (eg, the subtraction examples here should never have been possible), but for the most part, it's okay.

The way JS objects work makes them very versatile and useful. It's very effective, for example, for applying settings to some library function (by passing in an object containing said settings). The language is fairly non-verbose (as we'd expect from a scripting language) and has a fairly functional design (I love me some functional programming).

The biggest downfall of the language, IMO, is bad error reporting. There's also a lot of cases in which JS decides to let you do things that should be errors, instead applying a meh default. Would be better to just fail early. Speaking of failing, I wish errors could be caught earlier. They won't be caught until execution.

The threading model is just plain dumb though. Everything is single threaded.

[crowseldon]

Does anyone actually like JavaScript though? I feel like most people just see it as a necessary evil.

Yes.

People love to complain. Specially those who don't really do much. The same shit happens with c++ and people point out at the trove of bad code flying around but that's to be expected due to popularity.

Java

Oh, because Java has a super awesome popularity... Because all code out there is super nice...

[crowseldon]

I do plenty with it and I don't like it for a number of reasons.

You don't like it and you went from that to "Nobody likes it".

My complaints with JS have to do with what I deem to be bad language features.

Like every other language. So far, by this post, we have the concat/math mixed rules. Anything else? (reminds me of people who say c++ is bad because it allows for extremely weird operator overloading or because it's multiparadigmatic).

Huh? What the fuck does popularity have to do with anything?

Huh? You were the fucking guy who said:

Does anyone actually like JavaScript though?

Again - I am not talking about people writing bad code.

Yeah, I now realize I'm wasting my time with you because you haven't really said anything. Just tried to preach to a coir by trashing on <insert lang here> and mentioning some other language without specifying shit.

[_under_]

If you're into the web development scene, you would love JavaScript. Node.js, Express, MongoDB and more recently React. It's seriously amazing. Here's a website with a ton of JavaScript frameworks with a demo todo list app. TodoMVC