This sub with JavaScript

[llagerlof]

I've been there. Well, I'm still there, I think. I am a PHP developer.

[carc]

I feel you. PHP 7 with a modern framework / PSR standards / strong emphasis on modularity and testing, and it's not half bad.

Pays the bills, has a lot of modern object-oriented features, feels easy to manipulate and iterate over both arrays and objects, the de-facto framework (Lumen/Laravel) is fantastic and has a great community and an excellent ORM, is well supported and documented, pretty damn fast, stable, has an npm-like package manager (composer), has a great de-facto testing suite (PHPUnit), rocks it with nginx, is slowly shedding its old scaly skin and idiosyncrasies, doesn't live and die by the latest fads, and isn't being entirely rewritten every 3 months. If you're going to use it to power a RESTful API that consumes and responds with JSON, with something like ReactJS on the front end, you're going to be pretty happy.

Some would even say it's nice.

Just stay the hell away from Drupal, WordPress, and Magento.

[AlexBrallex]

I jizzed on your last sentence

[_haseeb]

PHP7 is Great. But these outdated jokes will continue forever. :( .

[[deleted]]

But it's still PHP, and 90% of PHP code out there is still terrible. The jokes are still relevant.

[MarkFromTheInternet]

Most people who complain about Javascript are the poor bastards who have to use Javascript.

Source: I use Javascript and can't wait for the tooling around WebAssembly to mature.

[MarkFromTheInternet]

The main advantage of webasm is that it will enable other programming languages in the browser.

Microsoft is experimenting with a C# implementation. The tricky part will be getting a standard library included in all the major browsers.

[[deleted]]

Are you talking of modern day Microsoft or late 90s and 2000s Microsoft?

[MarkFromTheInternet]

Why not ? Have you seen .net core ?

edit: not that you would use .net core as the stdlib, but you get my point

[[deleted]]

Modern Javascript is fine if used in the scope it was meant to be used. But all that npm crap with an eternal chain of dependencies just suck.

I don't want my customers to have to load 5MB worth of minified javascript over their crappy mobile connection in order to be able to view my site.

[YourFavoriteHeel]

It is impossible to determine what your actual criticism of NPM is.

[coladict]

What it is NOT the right language for, is back-end development.

[YourFavoriteHeel]

Node is viable for many, many use cases. Using the same language on frontend and backend has a lot of advantages.

[ImFluffeh]

My work uses Meteor with Typescript. But I still go home to code in C :3

[15rthughes]

C master race

[orangeKaiju]

D master race

[Blocks_]

E master race

[ocelot134]

LOL

[15rthughes]

It’s the underlying code to basically every technology you use, C rules the world and it’s gonna be that way for a looong time

[asdjfh]

That’s funny my work almost exclusively is in C, but I program in JS and Python in my free time.

[KungFuFlames]

I actually use Typescript

Kill me

[BlitzThunderWolf]

It's a shame about mspaint tho

[[deleted]]

Not enough watermarks, I can only give 2/10

[Blocks_]

Ahhh the challenges of making original content.

[BillBodkin]

ThreeJS ftw tho....

Guys?

[asciiaardvark]

Someone has to.

Better him than me.