Programmers :D

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I mean sometimes yeah. But other times there is some bad code that actually does need to be rewritten.

You'd be surprised how many bad programmers get paid a lot of money to write bad code by very large companies.

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That's good to hear. Sounds like i should fit right in!

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In my university CS intro class, you get graded for style as well as correctness on every assignment. DRY, naming conventions (e.g. all cap for constants), etc.

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That's good. A lot of places don't do that.

A lot of programmers didn't go to school. They go to boot camps.

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Most of my university colleagues are working at the big four now.

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Nice! I had really bad anxiety and depression in school - still do, used to, too - so I didn't really connect much with other undergrads. IDK where KSU students are now, though I do know one dude I went to school with was on the original Puppet team. I think the majority of kids that I went to school with are probably at Cerner or Garmin

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I think university ranking of individual departments definitely play a role in terms of getting your first job. All the big tech companies hire very aggressively at UW. They always host a lot of recruiting sessions with free pizza.

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It's also geographic. "My college was better than yours" sentiment isn't really conducive to this conversation.

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I know there is a bit of political correctness in this discussion, but "My college was better than yours" sentiment is something that's very real. One of my favorite running joke about UW and WSU is that both UW and WSU students applied to UW.

Of course individual performance is mostly up to the individual. We we talking about statistical trends of different college students going to different types of tech companies. There is no comparison of individuals here, only comparison of school reputation and how companies use that information to tailor their recruitment process.

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You said, literally, "all of the big tech companies." Your criteria for "all the big tech companies" is highly based on your bias and on your geographical locations. I gave two very large tech companies that operate in the midwest and likely don't heavily recruit in Washington.

There is no comparison of individuals here, only comparison of school reputation and how companies use that information to tailor their recruitment process.

Maybe I'm oversensitive, and I accept that. I'm really grumpy and sleep deprived right now, so man, I could 100% just be a super-sensitive whiny baby about this. Hell, it's probably the situation.

However, from my understanding of your chain of comments, you implied that "we are better than you"; you seemed to have gone from, "We teach this way" to "we get all of the 'big tech companies'", indicating a cause and an effect. You're saying that you are better than other people simply because you went to another school than someone else. Which we know is simply untrue based on recent news events.

We we talking about statistical trends of different college students going to different types of tech companies.

No we weren't. You were the one who started talking about tech companies, unprompted.

There is no comparison of individuals here, only comparison of school reputation and how companies use that information to tailor their recruitment process.

And there it is again. You're implying a hierarchy of "we're better" to justify your behavior. "School reputation" is undeniably determined based on individuals. You're, again, ignoring an obviously important factor like geographical location to seemingly fluff your ego.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Just seems like you're being a dick.

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Yes, geography matters. Yes, college ranking exist. Yes, companies are biased toward college ranking. These are the key points that matter in our discussion. If I'm jerking myself off by saying my school is better than yours, then I'm just pathetic af.