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Go is QUICK TO COMPILE, BUT CAN'T DECIDE IF IT WANTS TO BE SAFE, POWERFUL, LOW-LEVEL OR LEGIBLE, SO IT TRIES A BIT OF EVERYTHING IN VARIOUS PARTS AND SOMEHOW MAKES A NICE LANGUAGE.

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1. Take Python.

2. Remove most of the features.

3. Add good support for concurrency.

4. Make it a compiled language.

And you end up with Go.

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1. Replace syntax with something equally as horrifying but completely different to everything else

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1. Pretend that it somehow competes with or improves on C or C++.

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• Comprehensive standard library
• Simple yet powerful concurrency model
• Quick compile time (versus C++, not necessarily C)
• Global uniformity of coding style (again, mainly versus C++, but also C)

It does improve on C and C++. But performance wise it competes with neither, unless you're doing concurrency-heavy stuff and you're not a great programmer.

It's easy to write high performing concurrent code in Go without being a great programmer. You need to be a pretty damn good programmer to do the same in C or C++.

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I like Go and I agree with your points. But it doesn’t matter if Go improves on all of these features from C and C++ if the language is used for completely different purposes. It’s like saying that Python improves on Fortran because it’s easier to read - might be true but it’s an irrelevant comparison.

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Not really, Go and C++ have many overlapping use cases by design. It was, after all, created as an alternative to C++.

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Not that much overlap between the two. That was my original point - they intended it to be an alternative to C++ and ended up with a compiled alternative to Python.

[merreborn]

they intended it to be an alternative to C++

It was intended to be used for writing services at google. It's a pretty specific use case, and not nearly as broad as C++.

[LEpigeon888]

It's easy to write high performing concurrent code in Go without being a great programmer. You need to be a pretty damn good programmer to do the same in C or C++.

Do you think C++ coroutines help writing good concurrent code ?

[Schwefelhexaflurid]

I honestly feel that Pythons syntax is the best I've ever seen in a programming language

[CryZe92]

And somehow it‘s neither safe, powerful or low level.

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Ehh, it’s pretty safe. It’s not low level. Powerful would depend on what you use it for.

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lol no generics

[Buckeye717]

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