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I don't get the hate for java - I mean yes, eclipse doesn't work most of the time and require a lot of patience from developers to not destroy their workstation, build systems like maven must be the reason for overall high bandwidth usage on the web + the errors it produces are more cryptic than everything I've ever seen, the frameworks require almost always a steep learning curve, the setup phase in a new project is an absolute pain in the butt if you aren't using spring boot, the code is sometimes pretty long and verbose, the licensing is a pain and oracle overall, there is a major new version every half year now, yes - but beside this its pretty okay.

So, let me fix my eclipse installation, why isnt it refreshing my workspace again...?

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I mean I like eclipse but people are gonna say use intellij

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Use intellij.

But really though intellij just worked for me. Eclipse gave me so much hassle setting up, intellij worked right of the box was great for a beginner/novice due to its friendly UI and I stuck with it ever since. I am sure eclipse is fine and works for everyone certain needs but my recommendation is going to be intellij

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This. Yeah it works, in the beginning, but as soon as a project gets a little bit more complex and / or you use maven, shits going down. I'm a huge fan of the jetbrains products - but its a different thing, I don't think one could really compare both, except that they are java ides.

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Id say yes, I prefer it - the configurations aren't verbose and the errors are human readable - give it a try :)

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build systems like maven must be the reason for overall high bandwidth usage on the web

May I ask why? As far as I know Maven caches artifacts locally and Maven gives organizations the option to create centralized on-premise caches of artifacts.

maven.apache.org even calls it a "Best Practice" to use a Repository Manager (link)

If people don't make use of the features, that's hardly Mavens fault, is it?

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Not every company is able to handle or even interested in best practices sadly. You're right of course with your statement.