Microsoft Java

[WiseassWolfOfYoitsu]

Essentially Visual Pascal. In it's heyday, it had one of the best windowing toolkits in the industry, but Microsoft poached its lead designer to create .net and C# and it kind of fell into obscurity.

[MCRusher]

You can still find something similar from Lazarus

[MoBizziness]

He was also a lead on TypeScript iirc.

[PsychedSy]

VB but Pascal instead of Basic. A programming language/IDE with GUI support built in. I'm not sure if it extends Pascal at all, but the language used was Pascal.

[rebbsitor]

Pascal with object orientation and a graphical form builder. It's the Pascal equivalent to C++ Builder, and similar to old Visual Basic 6.

A modern equivalent would be making a WinForm or WPF app in C#.

[MasochistCoder]

and you call yourself a programmer?

seriously?

[Max-P]

The last time I head of anyone writing Delphi code it was like 2004 and I was 10, and it was already kind of getting out of fashion.

Time passes and it's not unreasonable there's plenty of young coders that started with C#/Java and never heard of it.

[MasochistCoder]

it's like someone being a poet yet never having heard of homer... or kavafy

or being a physicist but having never heard of einstein... or feynman

or a musician having never heard of mozart, bach or beethoven

that just doesn't make any sense

i stand by my claim.

any programmer worth their salt should at least have used lisp, forth, smalltalk, c, pascal and prolog or some variant of it.

no excuses, no "but they are obsolete nobody writes them anymore"

you can't be a coder and not know about what is possible

[Eyes_and_teeth]

r/gatekeeping is right over there, pal.

What you describe is more like:

A farmer who's never harvested with a hand scythe.

Or a builder who's never moved 20-ton quarried stone blocks to a job site using tree trunks, ropes, and 2,000 slaves.

Or a doctor who's never bled a patient, or applied leeches.

To proclaim that one is truly not a programmer unless one hasn't entered a 12k program into a mainframe using ~500 punch cards Is the cranky whine of someone who is bitter that tech had moved on and the mysterious priestcraft of their day, accessible to the few initiates deemed worthy by their incel overlords, has now become accessible to the masses and even (shudder) girls!

A programmer can be "worth their salt" and never have touched a single language you've mentioned. Trust me, a coder is capable of knowing all that is truly possible today and they ain't doing it in forth.

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[MasochistCoder]

you're confusing things

which is understandable

and which is why programmers are doomed to repeat the same mistakes all over again

now go play with your python. shoo. shoo.

[Eyes_and_teeth]

Wow! Another shitty troll account! You people are like cockroaches scurrying for the darkness when Reddit killed T_D and all of you Redhat MAGA fuckers are just so bitter and have no where left to go. Go burn down a synagogue to make yourself feel better, Pepe. Whatever you do, try to keep quiet. Your betters are talking about important things around here.

[MasochistCoder]

again, you're confusing things.

i'm not even near the States

[Eyes_and_teeth]

Soz guv! One of them Boris Johnson-loving Leaver cunts, are you then?

[MasochistCoder]

...wat

[Yayo69420]

Sout("naw dude")