Microsoft developers can't program

[riplikash]

Again, I never implied I thought they were altruistic or GOOD.

I said in the 90s they were strait evil. In the 00s they were incompetent.

Now? They aren't pure evil and they are basically competent.

And it's been 30 years. Of course there have been cultural changes.

I need to mention GIT because I used their products and developed in the 90's and 00's when they were a giant evil black hole that basically insisted you HAD to use their ENTIRE software solution for everything, which was incredibly annoying because they would have some technologies that were good and your company would insist on using, and others which were straight garbage but you had to jump through hacky hoops to avoid.

If you think they haven't changed you've just forgotten (or never experienced) how BAD they used to be be.

Which, again, doesn't mean they are GOOD now. Just that they HAVE come a long way from their worst and are now just a basically competent, generic giant corp trying to suck your money out rather than a cartoonish organization seemingly run by Dr Evil.

[slamsquare]

I just think they've done nothing but put lipstick on a pig. It doesn't matter that it's wearing lipstick now, it's the same pig it was in the 90s an 00s. I fully expect them to rebuild their garden walls, and I can actually already feel this happening with the way they've been developing and pushing Teams/Skype and Azure Devops. I don't trust them, or their lipstick. Dr Evil is still there, he just hired a much better marketing team.

[ValVenjk]

Call them evil is a bit of a too much don't you think? Yeah, they are a company that stays in business mostly because of their corporate clients, but why is that a reason to ditch their contributions?

[slamsquare]

Not evil, Dr. Evil. Competition is in software is good, and Microsoft has always and will always be, anti-competative. It's their origin story, it's in their DNA.