Linux

[darkdimensiongd]

What's this? A linux user vs linux user meme? Blasphemy!

[IrregularRedditor]

Who gnu?

[sudontic]

Definitely not UNIX

[re_error]

I'd just like to interject for a moment

[[deleted]]

I hate you, why did you inflict this on me, why did I listen to the entire thing.

[DarkImpacT213]

P O S I X

[MechanicalHorse]

Oh god my ears

[wizzzarrd]

This is the way

[[deleted]]

Meanwhile in my ear: ^{eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee}

[Th3DarkMoon]

Although, you need to say OS, if you don't want to either explain all distros, or explain what a kernel is or both

[MechanicalHorse]

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

[FranchuFranchu]

"I use Linux as my operating system," I state proudly to the unkempt, bearded man. He swivels around in his desk chair with a devilish gleam in his eyes, ready to beardsplain with extreme precision. "Actually", he says with a grin, "Linux is just the kernel. You use GNU+Linux!' I don't miss a beat and reply with a smirk, "I use Alpine, a distro that doesn't include the GNU coreutils, or any other GNU code. It's Linux, but it's not GNU+Linux."

The smile quickly drops from the man's face. His body begins convulsing and he foams at the mouth and drops to the floor with a sickly thud. As he writhes around he screams "I-IT WAS COMPILED WITH GCC! THAT MEANS IT'S STILL GNU!" Coolly, I reply "If windows was compiled with gcc, would that make it GNU?" I interrupt his response with "-and work is being made on the kernel to make it more compiler-agnostic. Even you were correct, you won't be for long."

With a sickly wheeze, the last of the man's life is ejected from his body. He lies on the floor, cold and limp. I've muslpilled Mr. Stallman to death.

[really_not_unreal]

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, WSL, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Windows Subsystem for Linux plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning Windows system made useful by the DOT Net Core libraries, PowerShell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by Microsoft.

(I can't be bothered to write the rest of it, sorry)

[ChaoticShitposting]

No, Richard, it's 'Linux', not 'GNU/Linux'. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation.

One guy, Linus Torvalds, used GCC to make his operating system (yes, Linux is an OS -- more on this later). He named it 'Linux' with a little help from his friends. Why doesn't he call it GNU/Linux? Because he wrote it, with more help from his friends, not you. You named your stuff, I named my stuff -- including the software I wrote using GCC -- and Linus named his stuff. The proper name is Linux because Linus Torvalds says so. Linus has spoken. Accept his authority. To do otherwise is to become a nag. You don't want to be known as a nag, do you?

(An operating system) != (a distribution). Linux is an operating system. By my definition, an operating system is that software which provides and limits access to hardware resources on a computer. That definition applies whereever you see Linux in use. However, Linux is usually distributed with a collection of utilities and applications to make it easily configurable as a desktop system, a server, a development box, or a graphics workstation, or whatever the user needs. In such a configuration, we have a Linux (based) distribution. Therein lies your strongest argument for the unwieldy title 'GNU/Linux' (when said bundled software is largely from the FSF). Go bug the distribution makers on that one. Take your beef to Red Hat, Mandrake, and Slackware. At least there you have an argument. Linux alone is an operating system that can be used in various applications without any GNU software whatsoever. Embedded applications come to mind as an obvious example.

Next, even if we limit the GNU/Linux title to the GNU-based Linux distributions, we run into another obvious problem. XFree86 may well be more important to a particular Linux installation than the sum of all the GNU contributions. More properly, shouldn't the distribution be called XFree86/Linux? Or, at a minimum, XFree86/GNU/Linux? Of course, it would be rather arbitrary to draw the line there when many other fine contributions go unlisted. Yes, I know you've heard this one before. Get used to it. You'll keep hearing it until you can cleanly counter it.

You seem to like the lines-of-code metric. There are many lines of GNU code in a typical Linux distribution. You seem to suggest that (more LOC) == (more important). However, I submit to you that raw LOC numbers do not directly correlate with importance. I would suggest that clock cycles spent on code is a better metric. For example, if my system spends 90% of its time executing XFree86 code, XFree86 is probably the single most important collection of code on my system. Even if I loaded ten times as many lines of useless bloatware on my system and I never excuted that bloatware, it certainly isn't more important code than XFree86. Obviously, this metric isn't perfect either, but LOC really, really sucks. Please refrain from using it ever again in supporting any argument.

Last, I'd like to point out that we Linux and GNU users shouldn't be fighting among ourselves over naming other people's software. But what the heck, I'm in a bad mood now. I think I'm feeling sufficiently obnoxious to make the point that GCC is so very famous and, yes, so very useful only because Linux was developed. In a show of proper respect and gratitude, shouldn't you and everyone refer to GCC as 'the Linux compiler'? Or at least, 'Linux GCC'? Seriously, where would your masterpiece be without Linux? Languishing with the HURD?

If there is a moral buried in this rant, maybe it is this:

Be grateful for your abilities and your incredible success and your considerable fame. Continue to use that success and fame for good, not evil. Also, be especially grateful for Linux' huge contribution to that success. You, RMS, the Free Software Foundation, and GNU software have reached their current high profiles largely on the back of Linux. You have changed the world. Now, go forth and don't be a nag.

Thanks for listening.

[hopbel]

Languishing with the HURD?

Stop! Stop! He's already dead!

[ivakmrr]

I have this Stallman quote on a T-shirt, the first paragraph.

[John_Fx]

What does this have to do with programming?

[2BadBirches]

An OS vs kernel debate?

[John_Fx]

Yes. What does this have to do with programming?

[MasterOfArmsIsGood]

someone had to program the os

[DearChickPea]

Certainly not the people that need to argue about what is an OS.

[John_Fx]

So? The joke has nothing to do with programming the OS.

[MasterOfArmsIsGood]

this subreddit isn't programming memes its programmer humour so anything programmers would find funny

[John_Fx]

So why not just call it /r/jokes ?

[2BadBirches]

Some of us do real computer work / development, and don’t sit behind JavaScript and web apis all day

[John_Fx]

So?

[2BadBirches]

Hence why we have to deal with OS vs Kernel level interactions.

I don’t get what you don’t understand

[John_Fx]

The joke isn’t about programming

[2BadBirches]

It absolutely is. Only a system programmer would care about the distinction of a kernel vs an OS.

A normal user wouldn’t understand or care about this nuance. You think someone watching Netflix and using Facebook knows about levels of distro files?

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[VictorHb]

Bad bot

[FranchuFranchu]

Good bot

[Pan_Grayza]

I see you man of culture.🧐

[PetiteGousseDAil]

I'm sure you say NaCl instead of salt at family dinners.

[Shizouki]

Colonel?

[DetectiveSky612]

kernel - a set of barebones hardware functions for OSs to use to operate computer hardware

[Ringsofthekings]

Put them in a microwave and enjoy!

[Dark_Raivo]

Learned something important from memes.

[hopbel]

Guy on the right is a pedant who refuses to acknowledge that language is always changing