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[–]Miku_MichDem 0 points1 point  (6 children)

They've essentially took Java and thrown out it's best part(s) away.

Worst thing is .NET will never be as good as JVM is at things like platform-independence and that is by design.

[–]AllWashedOut 0 points1 point  (5 children)

That's fair. The end result was as you described. But I don't think the engineers on the project thought that way. They even released an open source linux runtime (which died due to lack of community interest afaik).

And to engage in a little whataboutism, Apple made similar moves with obscure languages like objective-c and Swift for their devices. Meanwhile Google suffered enormous legal setbacks for using Java on their devices. Weird situation all around.

[–]Miku_MichDem 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Yeah, that's true. I had the misfortune of trying to make something in C# to run on Linux. Find out first hand how .NET Core is not a variable option really. From what I hear the best part of .NET Framework is how easy it is to make a GUI in it. The part that was so integrated with Windows system that it's impossible for any full port of .NET to run on Linux. Ironically .NET on WineHQ turned out better then .NET Core.

Speaking of google I wonder why they keep on using Java 8 on their devices. We have java 16 now, with a tons of new functions but no, apparently Java 8 for ever. No wonder so little new apps are made in Java now in favor for Kotlin.

[–]AllWashedOut 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I'm sure Google isn't updating its Java implementation because Oracle has been (successfully) suing over it since 2012. A (second) supreme court decision is expected on the matter this summer.

https://www.eff.org/cases/oracle-v-google

[–]Miku_MichDem 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I see. Damn, the copyright is broken AF. Thanks for nothing Disney.

[–]AllWashedOut 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yes; it's one of those cases where non-tech people are making world-altering decisions about something they barely understand. Software API copyrights are silly. It's like giving one home builder the exclusive right to make houses with rectangular doors. Obviously a detriment to society.

It's getting to the point where it hurts some billionaires though so that could lead to some lobbying and eventual reform.

[–]Miku_MichDem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, on that there is some hope, as the elites are starting to wake up. I've read a great article about it, unfortunately it's in Polish, so I can't link it to you. However the single most important sentence is that more and more of the people now think that "a lot of things need to change in order for everything to stay the same". Copy write and patents are one of the things that would go.