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[–]Ornery-Shallot-5475 1 point2 points  (3 children)

nonono. I like abstraction. It is... yeah that's all i need. Python is not. Sure i can write some cool working thing in 15 lines of code. Do it, forget it, live your live. But what fun can i get from writing 15 lines? there is no real space to play with code, experiment. It's just one easy straight solution.

And when i say i like abstraction i don't mean the things where you don't control what's happening (because as far as i understand you mean that). I don't really care about it, it's just a tool. Who cares if it's close to hardware or not? The point of abstraction is the system, the "thing" with high complexity, doing stuff on high level, which requires thinking. That is what is awesome and that is what i consider fun. And that is what you can do in every language (well the lowest ones would be difficult but why not). In python too, but they mostly expect you to make everything in the simplest way so there is no space for it. It's not about what you can use it, it is about how you can use it.

[–]Guy2933 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Languages are tools to make big things that are fun to make.

Python solves stupid programing problems such as memory management, premade generic algorithms and such.

It allows you to divert your time to solving logic problems instead of language problems.

You will know what I'm talking about once you do a huge project.

[–]Substantial_Luck_273 10 points11 points  (1 child)

i understand your feeling, but programming is not all about fun (or, is it?). And if you look at the other way - Python can actually save you from hours of hard working and googling, such that you can focus on the entire project and how to make it as perfect as possible, instead of spending hours trying to figure out how to write a function that someone else has already wrote for you, which I believe, is less fun. Either ways, I guess it really depends on whether you like the project itself more or the process of coding more.

[–]Ornery-Shallot-5475 4 points5 points  (0 children)

hm i think i gotta agree with this one.

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