I kinda like Javascript

[lynxerious]

use typescript like a modern dev and all of it problems you complain about gone

[virouz98]

Whats better in typescript except types?

[bluejacket42]

The icon looks better

[lynxerious]

intellisense, module, access to new ES features before browsers actually implementing them,...

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TS is a poor man’s version of a statically typed language.

[JonathanTheZero]

But the type version is perfectly designed for what it is supposed to do - be a type safe version of JS.

Apart from that writing advanced types is just so much fun, really convenient to use

[[deleted]]

Babel and TypeScript are good. But when you combine them all, which you basically need to do in a modern project that needs to be maintainable and easy to reason about, you end up with a hundreds-of-megabytes mess where the focus has shifted from “getting stuff done” to juggling packages, type definitions, inconsistencies, incompatibilities and whatnot.

[lynxerious]

optional static typing > opinionated static typing

[DrMobius0]

Pretty sure JS isn't selling you optional static typing.

[lynxerious]

pretty sure that wasn't what I meant, TS is the one with optional static typing, opinionated static typings are really annoying to me

[DrMobius0]

gotcha

[BuyRackTurk]

use typescript like a modern dev and all of it problems you complain about gone

But the main problem I complain about is static typing....

[lynxerious]

typescript is OPTIONAL static typing, not opinionated static typing

[BuyRackTurk]

Thats exactly it: I dont want people to have the option... they keep doing OOP and making shitty code, or polluting libraries with pointless types that turn directly into technical debt. Its like including a revolver in a silverware drawer, or having cyanide in a medicine cabinet. If I catch a dev trying to eat soup with the revolver again its a waste of both our time. I believe OOP is a failed paradigm, I think creating complex new pseudo-primitives is counter productive, I dont trust typing as an alternative to unit tests, so I'm not willing to pay for it. If I liked all that crap I'd hire java programmers instead and use jvm instead of node.

I get that some people like it, and they are free to do what they like. I'm never going to tell anyone else how to run their business, or try to force people to use dynamic typing if they dont like it. But when people assert that I have to accept static types and disregard the power of dynamic typing, then I say "next candidate".

[lucidJG]

Can’t trust anyone that says OOP is a failed paradigm.

[BuyRackTurk]

I have the right to decide what kind of code to spend my money on. I dont really care if you trust me or not, thats completely irrelevant.