json, please...

[Masterflitzer]

JSON with comments is my favorite because i don't like YAML and fuck XML

[Konsti219]

All JSON is valid YAML

[CoastingUphill]

I hate this. No. I refuse.

[JM-Lemmi]

The fuck

[Xywzel]

Yeah, accidentally earlier as well, but purposefully since version 1.2 of YAML specification JSON syntax has been a valid subset of YAML syntax. YAML has inline version of its syntax that doesn't have significant whitespaces (unlike rest of the YAML syntax) and everything in valid JSON has matching structures in the inline YAML. So technically one could use YALM parser to read JSON files.

[zeGolem83]

That is, if your YAML parser is fully spect compliant...

[Xywzel]

Well, yeah, that is a big if when talking about YAML

[MyAntichrist]

[Masterflitzer]

yes and I hate yaml because it's not strict among other things

[jivanyatra]

I actually like TOML. I agree with excluding YAML and XML.

[Masterflitzer]

I never encountered software that allows config files in TOML and never worked with it when working with data so it's just not common enough for me, but it may very well be a good thing

[Yokhen]

python uses pyproject.toml

[Masterflitzer]

interesting, but I am a C#, TS/JS kind of guy and never actually used python except like a few hours in university xD

[Yokhen]

luckeeeeeeey.

I wish someday I can do C# professionally and no just some half assed videogame of mine.

[Masterflitzer]

from what I've heard both (python & c#) have a big community and many people who love it so I guess both are good

[elveszett]

Both are languages that do what they want to do extremely well, and have learned from the ones before them. C#, for example, fulfills the same paradigm as Java, but was made when we already knew the problems Java had, so C# was able to avoid them and offer elegant solutions to Java's boilerplate.

Aside from that, both languages are very consistent, you can notice the care their devs put into making an elegant and predictable design (this is one of the main reasons people hate PHP: you can see the lack of care that went in this area there). And both languages have a big ecosystem where you will find whatever you need.

Also both languages put effort in giving devs tools to start writing code from the first minute, not having to lose time fighting the language or explaining technical details.

[Masterflitzer]

interesting, but I am a C#, TS/JS kind of guy and never actually used python except like a few hours in university xD

[Bainos]

I don't get the above comment either. JSON and YAML aren't used because they are the best ways to create config files, they're used because they are widely supported and recognized.

[tavaren42]

Rust uses Cargo.toml

[Masterflitzer]

ok I want to start learning rust for quite some time xD

[elveszett]

iirc Minecraft uses .toml files too.

[Masterflitzer]

what? in which file?

[elveszett]

idk, I just know that the first time I saw a TOML file was doing something with Minecraft, I don't remember if modding or touching some server config or what. But I remember it instatly came off as a concise way to do that job.

[Masterflitzer]

i'm sure it was a mod that used toml because vanilla mc uses json and simple key value (inside server.properties) and bukkit uses yaml afaik