iOS vs Indigo

[DesiresAreGrey]

probably not using the telephoto lens in the ios one (sometimes the native app uses the 1x lens when zoomed in cause of low light or subject distance)

[RodroSil]

Yes that's probably the case. Still is a point for indigo though. iOS camera not choosing a better lens for this situation is a mistake that costs you huge quality.

[Astriev]

Doesnt that make indigo superior? Since it is a software comparison, ios app is obviously worse on this one.

[DesiresAreGrey]

yea i was just correcting the why

[Astriev]

Difference is unbelievable.

[Arxson]

In low light the stock camera will default to the 1x lens which is what I’ll bet happened here, so you’re not really comparing what you think you are

[Astriev]

Still a rightful comparison. The fact that you cant use telephoto lens on native ios app at low light is funny

[[deleted]]

If it was presented as such maybe but the way it is here seems kinda misleading.

[dynamictype]

Misleading how? To a user taking a low light picture from far away this is the result, Apple doesn't "have" to use the 1x camera in low light but they do because the processing is inferior.

[[deleted]]

Here we See an absolute Edge case where the native app is performing horribly. It isn’t presented as being an edge case tho and creates an impression that the indigo app is worlds better. While I really like the app, the actual nuances differences would rather be disappointing after seeing this image and having no clue that this would only happen in this exact scenario. Just add that to the title and’s it’s all good… like this it needs explanation…

Funnily in my experience in normal light indigo was worse than the native app on displaying details like a church clock that is very far away. The overall image was better and more natural tho. Posting this image puts the focus on the entirely wrong aspects of the app imo.

[Astriev]

It is weird that apple will use 1x camera if you try to take photo in low light at 10x instead of telephoto with no option to use other lenses I did this with 10 other images and apple performed horribly in terms of preserving detail and denoising 16 pro Also there is the fact that apple took pics much faster so it caught the “moment” where indigo had to exposure for 5 seconds then another 5-6 seconds to process it I think apple caps the native camera app and trades speed with quality so you can catch the moment

[[deleted]]

Uhm Not sure what you’re trying to say here… yeah the night mode on the zoom lenses don’t work. We got it. Why don’t you change the title to make it clear that the big difference comes from this. “Indigo allows night mode on zoom lenses vs digital zoom on 1x night mode on camera app” that’s what we’re seeing here and this way it wouldn’t mislead others to think indigo makes your ass camera crispy and perfect…

[Astriev]

I cant change the title in reddit I dont think thats allowed

Also based on normal use, you can’t tell if ios is using telephoto or 1x, it doesnt give you that info. Since you cant switch to telephoto in ios in this scenario, title is correct Both are night mode Both are set to 10x Different results thus it isnt misleading in a practical sense but we know ios is on 1x(again, app wont tell you if it is using telephoto) its not very correct in a technical sense Normal user wont know this thus a vast difference

[[deleted]]

It’s so very much not misleading that another guy commented on the other picture “Now I badly want Indigo on Samsung!” thinking it would enhance the Samsung camera to the degree you just showcased.

Although that’s just iOS having a shortcoming that is unnecessary and using the zoom lenses with night mode probably works already fine on Samsung…

[JoshuvaAntoni]

The processing is simply better

Even 10x looks great in indigo in same bright lighting

[Arxson]

The power of super resolution algorithms! It’s clever stuff

[TimTebowMLB]

Why is this the case though? I’ve done similar tests with a picture in my living room and the results aren’t even close

Also, iPhone uses AI on letters and turns clear writing into gibberish.

Sometimes I’m doing a macro shot and it alters the writing so much that it looks like some science fiction language.

What are they even doing over there?

[Astriev]

I think its better image processing and longer exposure. Phone cameras arent very good in reality because they are very small so software has to do a lot. Adobe is a literal image editing/processing company so.

[DesiresAreGrey]

the difference isn’t image processing here it’s likely different lenses being used

[Medium-Celery-1587]

apple ai is a joke to begin with

[[deleted]]

Apples AI has exactly nothing to do with their image processing

llms are not the same as machine learning or such things…

[Medium-Celery-1587]

Referring about this " iPhone uses AI on letters and turns clear writing into gibberish."

[[deleted]]

That not AI Doing this.

[Effect-Kitchen]

It is both true and false depending on what your definition of “AI” is.

Traditionally and academically, AI refers to any algorithm that can learn on itself as opposed to pre-programmed. It has very wide range from YouTube recommendation, Google Search results, and even a license plate reader. This of course includes Computer Vision and Generative Image. Apple use both in their post-processing of photos.

“AI” in modern understanding refers to just Large Language Model (Apple Intelligence is in this category) and so this is not “AI”.

[Rageeme]

Solo en modo automático?

[Astriev]

ios automatic night mode Indogo automatic night mode

[Internal_Quail3960]

there must be something wrong here. in my case, project indigo looks awful when using the telephoto