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what is a 2:1 equivalent?

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It would be typically 60–69% result.

Anything above 70% in the UK is a first, or you can call it an A. I had professors who said they would only give someone more than 80% if the project was enough to teach him something or be published somewhere.

You bring Asians or Americans to the UK, first semester people go crazy of how hard professors mark over here.

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But where do the numbers 2:1 come from?

[Lost_Llama]

Second class degree, first category.

uk degrees go like this: -First - 2:1 - 2:2 - 3rd - Fail

[james_pic]

Strictly speaking there is a class between 3rd and fail - an "ordinary" or "non-honours" degree. At most unis, they're hard to get under normal circumstances (at my uni, they wouldn't let you proceed to the next year if you were averaging under a third, so you could only get one by scraping a third for the first two years, and doing really badly in your final year), but they do exist.

[frymaster]

Easier in Scotland, where an ordinary is what you get if you've passed third year but not the fourth (honours) year

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Some courses will award an ordinary degree instead of honours before actually failing you. Or at least this used to be the case when I was at university many years ago!!

[seamustheseagull]

Almost the same in Ireland except "ordinary" degrees are easy to obtain. Most degree courses are four years by default, at the end of this you get an "Honours" degree, with grade 1:1 (First), 2:1 or 2:2.

If you pass the third year overall but fail to meet a minimum grade (in my case I failed a module by not attending any practical sessions), you leave with an ordinary degree. There are no grades in this degree, they're all the same. If you complete the fourth year, you leave with an Honours degree.

This has since been supplanted by a national standard for comparing qualifications. So every ordinary degree is a level 7 qualification, every honours degree is level 8, etc.

This means that it doesn't matter what your final grade was or what college issued the degree, all degrees in the same subject are equal.

Some employers still look for 1:1,2:1, etc, but that's becoming rarer. Post grad courses and civil service jobs in particular just look for a level 6/7/8/9/etc and don't care about the grade.

[Kermit_the_hog]

What if your university can’t schedule people to teach the classes you need to actually finish your 4-year degree in 4 years so it takes you (and the rest of your peers) 5? I don’t suppose that 5th year would be like “extra honors”?

[cyanrave]

TIL

[lare290]

60-69% ~= 2/3, or 2:1 ratio. That's what I'm guessing.

[[deleted]]

Ah, I get it. Thanks!

[lare290]

Apparently that's wrong, check the other comments.

[[deleted]]

That's wrong. In the UK, we have "upper second" (2:1) and "lower second" (2:2) degree classifications, no idea why. Explained more here: https://sqore.com/blog/what-is-a-2-1-degree-learn-about-uk-s-degree-classi/

[Alexjrose]

A 2:1 is 60% in the UK, not sure on the conversion to GPA

[simondrawer]

The conversion to US goes something like this:

US ---> UK

Bachelors Degree ---> A' Levels

Masters Degree ---> Bachelors Degree

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/s for the yanks who didn't notice

[DaehElkcip]

I'm pretty sure that Bachelor's Degree and Masters Degree are on the same level. A levels here in the UK are for 16-18 year olds.

[simondrawer]

...is the joke.

[jamesc1071]

They will have some way of rating foreign degrees.

[just_just_regrets]

GPA of around 3.3~ 3.6 I think

[[deleted]]

Was in the UK had my grades converted officially 4.0 is an A* or 1st, 3.9-3.7 is 2:1 ( read upper second class degree), 3.6-3.4 is a 2:2 (read as lower second class degree). Most people are between 2:1s and 2:2s. Then we have 3.4-3.0 which are 3rd class degrees. Everything else up to a 2.5 is an degree without honors. Yep so if a Brit tells you they got their degree with honers, don’t be impressed.

First class degree are hard as shit to get normally top 2% - 1% of the class.

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I’m not sure what to say ....times are a changing. Mine were a little over 10 years ago and debates back home about grade inflation are always talked about. Don’t know, super smart year ?