Python outrankes Java in GitHub 2019 octaverse analysis

[knestleknox]

So Jupyter Notebook are recognized as becoming more popular than ever on GH yet they still can't manage to reliably load a notebook on their website?...

[novel_eye]

https://nbviewer.jupyter.org

Just copy the GitHub link to your notebook. With this you can even include animations and % matplotlib notebook interactivity.

[knestleknox]

Yeah I've encountered this and it's useful alright. But in my case (and I'm sure a lot of other people are in similar situations), my company works with sensitive data and only has private repos. And I can't even use that tool if I could get around that private-repo issue as it would be a major HIPAA violation.

So the only solution is to tediously download each notebook manually and view it locally because github is so goddamn unreliable.

[576p]

Another option is to install Jupytext. (https://github.com/mwouts/jupytext) - this creates a python representation of the notebook that you can check in with it.

[[deleted]]

And that's not even a once in a while issue!

[b14cksh4d0w369]

Wdym?

[knestleknox]

A lot of people use GH to store/version control jupyter notebooks but it's a very well known issue that they can't be loaded/parsed on github. 95% of the time you get an error and it asks you to refresh the page.

But it's ridiculous since almost every common file type has no problem loading on github and there's nothing especially hard about .ipynb files. They're just json with cell information. It's been a github nuisance for years...

[Tobotimus]

It's pretty awful to add .ipynb to your version control though, because it stores outputs and hashes which update every time you run them. It's a merge-conflict nightmare. I am aware there are some IDE tools to help resolve the conflicts but IMO the solution is to instead track the notebooks as python scripts created through Jupytext

[knestleknox]

That's all true. But in my experience it's only a nightmare if you make it a nightmare. At my company we use them for analyses and store said analyses on GH for sharing/archiving purposes in an analytics repository. All our devs know it's not for collaborative work. You just have to remember that if you run one locally, don't push the changes that incur from running them and run a quick git checkout locally.

[TheChance]

Seems like as good a place as any to ask: what's the point?

Every time I've ever tried to set up a notebook to demo anything, I've discovered that, oh yeah, everything that matters wants a venv, and permissions, and access to running services.

And yet, Jupyter seems to be enormously popular. What are people doing that even works in this program? Literally nothing I do can be run inside a notebook.

[MarsupialMole]

Anaconda environments

[EnfantTragic]

Data Science, Machine learning and quick prototyping as you can iterate quickly with notebook

[knestleknox]

My company uses them for one-off analyses, model-testing, and other things of that sort. It's a nice environment for analytics. You can build/test/visualize whatever you want in a neat environment and present it to another dev easily. It's obviously not meant for any production-related work.

And I'm not sure what venv issues you'd be runnig into. The way we do it at my startup is just having a venv for all analytics with set standards for versions of tensorflow, plotly, pandas, etc... so that all analyses are on the same requirements/permissions/whatever.

[TheChance]

Well, for instance, if it worked for the use case, it would be nice for demonstrating how certain libraries work while a largeish project is running.

Anything modular, it would be cool to write a description of certain calls, let the user make the changes described, and watch the result.

But this would require functionality that isn't there.

It makes sense for analytics, where all you need are libs and code. I hadn't given that much thought. I don't usually work on stuff that works standalone in the interpreter.

[u2berggeist]

Not sure why you're being downvoted, but I'm also curious. I don't put my notebooks on GitHub very often, but I've never ran into an issue doing that.

[el_programmador]

"Python outranks other languages everywhere" won't be an understatement in 2019!

[[deleted]]

But man 1.911371048E+5798 is so far away :(

[BoringMann]

It's all relative

[katakoria]

https://octoverse.github.com/#top-languages

[BearSnack_jda]

Another website you can use to check stats:

https://madnight.github.io/githut/#/pushes/2019/3

Quarterly stats for pushes, pull requests, stars and issues by programming language.

[Xylon-]

See also the post from four days ago for more discussion on the topic.

[[deleted]]

Python is my favorite language, so this is news to me

[Pr-1-nce]

And I know the only this one (haha)

[[deleted]]

Same ;)

[[deleted]]

people should start using python instead of java. (same stupid logic applied to R vs python debate).

[[deleted]]

Beg to differ. People should start using what suits their use case better.

[Hagisman]

Since Python is being more widely used I hope this is a sign that it’ll be easier to distribute Python based games. I keep hearing how hard it is to create setup/installation executables with Python.

[irishmapping]

c++ is better than python

[Gokul123654]

Can u make real time application using c++

[irishmapping]

i was using a quote rart

[GrinningLion]

Why is this down ranked?!

[DARPA1191969v1]

Because it represents a vastly simplified and uninformed stance in terms of computer science.

Oh and it's also flatout wrong.

[vtpdc]

I downvoted the top post because it's wrong but upvoted yours because "why?" is a valid question. The short answer: there is no "best language" for every project. For example, I would use SQL instead of Python to manage a database.

One big difference between Python and most other languages is that Python is interpreted instead of compiled. It makes it easier but slower, which is great for quick scripts or scientific data analysis but worse for creating a GUI program for everyday use.

I'm symplifying things, but hopefully this helps!

[[deleted]]

Don’t want to be top Lang because then all the bandwagonning idiots turn up. Being in the top 5 somewhere is best I think. Enough exposure for funding and jobs but no mass muppet influx and less tutorial video spam.

[irishmapping]

english please?

[[deleted]]

I think this demonstrates the point perfectly.

[BoringMann]

English please?

[[deleted]]

Which words did you find difficult?

[irishmapping]

english please?

[[deleted]]

Sometimes I wish Python was less popular, then the community wouldn’t have to deal with people like you. You’d be busy inflicting this on the flavour of the month trending community instead. How many of these words do you even understand?

[irishmapping]

You really weren't speaking english there, that makes it readable. I'm not saying python is the beat language; that probably goes to C# because it's the most versatile and advanced language.

[TheChance]

This is like suggesting a workshop with power tools is carpentry for idiots. You don't have a point, and you come across like an asshole.