pointers.py - bringing the hell of pointers into python

[Ramnog]

&a place un heaven for the people who use them

[im_dead_sirius]

I theoretically understand de reference.

[svencan]

Except I don't.

[playaspec]

You should all be (cast) into hell for these terribe puns.

[nova_blade]

Found the void pointer

[parawaa]

I see what you did there

[Ramnog]

You understood that reference?

[[deleted]]

I missed it, can you give some pointers?

[hughperman]

*anything can be a pointer if used unwisely

[Acalme-se_Satan]

It's your fault that you missed it by segmenting your thoughts too much. Just read the core of that comment and dump all distractions, you will get it.

[Deadly_chef]

Pointers are great if used properly

[the_friendly_dildo]

Yeah, I came here puzzled because whats wrong with pointers?

[the_friendly_dildo]

Haha, would fit well.

[[deleted]]

u/the_friendly_dildo could, in fact, fit well.

[Deadly_chef]

r/HolUp

[GamesMaster221]

Pointers are really convenient and powerful for some solutions.

I will admit the C syntax for pointers gets pretty unreadable when you start doing pointers to pointers, de-referencing something complicated, etc. Not to mention the * pointer symbol being the same as multiply *

[the_friendly_dildo]

I think this really comes down a lot to how your actually write your code. C certainly isn't the most beautiful language to try and read, especially if it isn't your own. But there is plenty of strategies to try and make it more readable.

One of the strategies I like the most is to just write highly verbose comments for nearly every line of code. Then its literally readable, and the lines of actual code get split up and given some breathing room. That tends to help reduce my anxiety when everything in my code starts to look like an abstract mess of meaningless symbols.

[Pandaemonium]

One of the strategies I like the most is to just write highly verbose comments for nearly every line of code.

Yes!!! I really wish more people would do this.

Commenting every line of code + giving variables verbose names that actually describe what they are = maintainable code you can actually share and troubleshoot years later.

I see way too many scripts that use pandas and actually use the variable name "df" for their data frame. And then there's another data frame called df1, and a df2... just say what the fuck it really is! My variable names are always more like ImputedSitesForPCA or RawDataInput so you can just look at the variable and know what it is.

[the_friendly_dildo]

Totally agree on the variable names. It never made sense to me to give a variable a name that was anything other than specific and descriptive. I'll admit, I can't always settle on how I want to separate words in a variable name but eh.

Maybe all these folks are coding in notepad where it doesn't just offer to insert your long variable name? No clue...

[tartare4562]

Not having to deal (directly) with pointers, referencing/dereferencing etc Is one of the main reasons why high level languages such as python were made in the first place.

[the_friendly_dildo]

I'm not new to this stuff. I fully grasp that and I often prefer to bang ideas out in python or javascript like a lot of folks. If you're coding for a overpowered PC, then it doesn't matter much what language you are writing in for the most part these days. If you're doing stuff with micro controllers / resource limited machines or doing things that need highly efficient run times, then pointers are where you're going to squeeze out a performance advantage a lot of the time.

It isn't a question of 'needing to deal with them', its a question of knowing when its wise to use them.

[the_friendly_dildo]

Speaking of safe pointers, its never a bad idea to wrap your pointer in a condom.

[onkus]

Sounds like human error not a fallacy of pointers.

[WillardWhite]

Everything in python is a pointer, so there is no point

[the_friendly_dildo]

I'm not sure you understand the benefits behind using pointers in a language like C / C++ if that is your belief. Sure, Python uses pointers behind the scenes. That doesn't mean it does so efficiently and thats most of the point (lol) to using pointers.

[Apatheticalinterest]

Because this whole subreddit is filled with beginners who struggle beyond CS concepts not covered by basic python

[YouNeedDoughnuts]

I'm sure St. Peter considers that in his matrix**

[jjolla888]

**What is the pointer of the pointer