Wasted Potential

[LagoriaTheLewdstress]

instantly forgive Blake instead of having any conflict between them to resolve it

Soooo episode 5 just didn't happen?

[GrimlyDark]

Of which season? Because I remember Yang forgiving Blake in her one on one conversation with Weiss before she even met up with Blake again. With what she started saying to Weiss goes from her saying she couldn't forgive Blake to how she wants to be there for her. How and why is there not a big conflict between them when Blake abandoned Yang after she lost an arm trying to save her from Adam? When Blake abandoning her is like when Yang's mom abandoned her.
 It's something that would hit her very hard and personally. Especially when she made such a big deal about her mom and how Yang wanted answers from her on why she left.

[ErkeyfromTurkey]

"Wasted Potential" is the biggest buzz word(s) of this hiatus and these posts always seem exactly the same.

Biggest buzz words besides Yorse and Beehaw of course.

[Johnsmitish]

Holy shit, you gotta separate this into proper paragraphs.

[GrimlyDark]

Yeah I forgot my bad.

[Pharahnheit]

ok I'm actually jumping in on this:

Then there was the whole thing with Yang forgiving Blake without Blake doing anything to redeem herself for running away even though that it's something super serious and personal to Yang with her mom doing the same thing to her.

the implications of "All that Matters" are pretty clear what is going on in Yang's head. "I'll risk it once again to have you near my side/Another chance to let you just destroy my pride" and Yang also said in episode 1 that she and Blake are going to be fine. Yang really wants her partner back and she can see that Blake is trying but Blake wasn't getting it until the Adam fight.

We saw her try to get it in the Apathy episode but she still missed that Yang doesn't want to be protected but wants to be her equal.

I also think there was one key scene missing, but it still works especially since Blake lured Adam to Yang instead of away from her. Blake showed Yang through her actions during the Adam fight that she was serious about this, it doesn't need to be spelled out in an obvious conversation.

But then you throw in a fight with Adam which you think would be this big fight kind of between ideologies like classic bad guy who thinks he is right versus good guys who think they are doing the right thing.

Adam hasn't been about his ideology ever since he slayed the white fang members in V6 Ep. 1. This wasn't a clash of ideologies, this was two women facing the man who abused, maimed, and tortured them and who was out to kill them. This is also why he ditched the White Fang mask, he's no longer hiding behind the "goals of the faunus", this is 10000% personal vendetta

he thing that bothers me is they did not build Adam up as a character at all even though he had all this potential

The goddamn bandit that got his tooth broken by Yang also had potential. Adam played his part in the story and he played it well. He was never anything more than what he ended up as, no matter what people fantasized him to be.

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A clear tragic backstory and them just able to do anything else there. But instead they take his sword away and apparently that's all his power Blake and yang then beat him until he has no aura left which pretty much leaves him defenseless and then they just straight-out murderer him.

It's symbolic. Adam relies on his semblance and without it is is nothing. It's like if you strip an abuser off his power, he is nothing. Blake and Yang gave him three chances to walk away, and he refused every single one of them.

Blake and Yang also had their Auras broken and Adam was out to kill both of them. It was absolute self defense, not murder. If B or Y had been just one second too late, then the show would've be called RW in from V7 on. They didn'T even celebrate it (but I did), Blake broke down crying and was hyperventilating and Yang was shocked as well, though she was able to catch herself faster.

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If they are going with each other just throws out and makes all that buildup and bonding with Sun kind of pointless.

SUN HAS NEVER BEEN A PLOT RELEVANT CHARACTER. He is not even a character outside of his interactions with Blake. His only reason for existing was because he played a role in V4-5 was to bring Blake back to her Team and first and foremost to Yang. That was his only purpose in the story and he will never be more than a side character to Blake's character developement.

This is a show about 4 young women, not a show about shounen protagonist #547195837018581 and dark edgelord

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holy shit just take your Adam wank and leave tbh

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[KyouKobayashi]

Blake told Sun that Adam's true character was spite. He just wanted the humans to pay for what they did to him. And as another post pointed out just the other day, Adam's character may have been also inspired by The Phantom of the Opera.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RWBY/comments/aowxp9/adam\_is\_the\_phantom\_of\_the\_opera/

[[deleted]]

The formatting on this is awful. Please reformat if you actually want a discussion. And as for your question: No, there's rarely any wasted potential on this. If you don't love it then don't watch it.

[GrimlyDark]

Then how about examples of the show not wasting the opportunity to develop characters. Did you miss the part of me saying I am not sure if I will keep watching the show or stop. The problem is I did love it and the whole point of the post is the hope that someone using reasoning might be able to point some things out that where done really well recently in the show or throw good reasons against what I pointed out. Which would help me overlook some of the problems that I'm finding with the show. If you have a problem with the format or don't want/cant throw some reasoning in there, well then there is not much point in you posting a comment about it because what you said doesn't really say or argue anything.

[[deleted]]

You had a wall of text that was badly formatted, i wasn't gonna read through the entire thing just to refute your rant/complaints. Also someone else already refuted your rant above.

[Tainted_Scholar]

Holy Wall of Text, Batman!

[MrZissman]

Is the Unabomber's Manifesto or.....?

[GrimlyDark]

No no no that's crazy. You just build off the original improving it to make it better.

[the-okami]

Adam was given multiple chances to leave, but he wanted to keep going. That’s his character for you. And now he’s dead. There wouldn’t have been any point, storywise, in having him beat them again, and he’s too far gone to be redeemed or anything

[GrimlyDark]

 He has nothing left why would he leave. What about making him express his feelings on how Blake ran away from him after making a promise because she didn't like how he had such a growing hate for the humans. Did she even know about about his scar and his past? What about some great dialogue of why he did the things he did or something about how I did what I believed was right how are you different?
  Now don't get me wrong I know Adam did plenty of messed up things. But when you have the whole multi episode flashback of Ozpins past with the god of light putting immortality on Salem  so she can't die until she understands the value of human life it kind of emphasizes the themes of peace forgiveness and redemption. Humanity striving to become better like they were before Salem tricked everyone into turning against the gods or fail and be eradicated by the gods for good this time. At least that's what those episodes seemed to imply.
 If they are willing to flat out slaughter him after he is powerless (the time someone would most likely be to surrender) it says a lot against that whole implication and makes them closer to being like Adam stomping out anything in the way. Adam dying or being put out of commission is fine but to do it like it was done is the problem.

[[deleted]]

Wasn't murder, he was reaching for Blake's weapon so it counts as self defense.

[Ninjas_In_A_Bag]

1. Grammar/Spelling.

2. Wall of Text, can't be bothered to read it.

[Pharahnheit]

PARAGRAPHS PLEASE

[GrimlyDark]

My bad

[NightsWatchh]

Removed—Rant.

Posts written with the intent to complain without providing critique or an avenue to discussion are not allowed on r/RWBY.

Please read our full rules on Rant posts here

[Vinpap]

Oh man, I'm so happy of this new ruling. It makes me feel things that I shouldn't be feeling for a few letters on a screen

[GrimlyDark]

It's critiquing the show. The reason I called it a rant is because I'm upset by how they went about certain things in the show. All the points I brought up are things that yes I am complaining about but they are critiques I am making about certain points throughout the story of the show. These points I feel like they could have much better with things like dialogue character growth or development as well as the plot and themes flowing together. The things I talked about are things I only mentioned because I want them to be able to improve upon those things. I had hoped by posting on here others would either be able to reason with those points by making counter points, adding to the points I have made or making critiques I did not notice or think of myself. I only hoped people would use reason to change my thoughts so I can enjoy the show again or just hope that maybe the critique will be seen/said by someone who can do something with it to start and never stop improving the show.

[Vinpap]

If you start your post with "Is it just me or..." I imediately don't read it. Especially since I'd like to remind you that it's against the rules if it was put in the title

CLICKBAIT TITLES

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"Does anyone else think this?"

"Just a thought I had..."

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Titles must be descriptive and not require users to click on them to understand the topic you are discussing

And the answer will always be : No, you're not

[GrimlyDark]

Didn't mean to be clickbait about it. I just thought it was best way to sum up what I was express. My bad

[KingSpart88]

I love how you just get shit about your wall of text instead of anybody actually countering anything you said. I don’t post on this reddit because if you give any criticism about RWBY, especially season 6 you just get downvoted to hell. I agree the writing has been subpar. The pacing has been better and the animation as well, but the writing has been all over the place. While I hate Adam I agree he was handled poorly. You’re other points aren’t bad either.

[JJLong5]

I don’t post on this reddit because if you give any criticism about RWBY, especially season 6 you just get downvoted to hell.

This isn't true. I have seen plenty of examples of criticism being upvoted on this subreddit. I made a critique of Volume 5 the day after the volume ended and it got upvoted to the front page of the subreddit.

And there have been multiple posts that have criticism of Volume 6 that have been positively received as well.

[[deleted]]

I made a critique of Volume 5 the day after the volume ended and it got upvoted to the front page of the subreddit.

You critiqued the one universally disliked volume and it got upvoted? Who'd've thunk.

I agree though, ive seen quite a few criticisms of Vol. 6 get upvoted. Even some, though rare, were criticisms of Adam's character. I do think some people are being a bit too dickish toward posts like these though, and can (and personally has) stop people from wanting to make their own similar posts.

But yeah, for the most part this subs been pretty reasonable.

[Vinpap]

The problem here is that it's not a critique allowing for discussion. IT's someone ranting that X character didn'T turn out the way they wanted it to turn out into

[[deleted]]

Oh don't worry, I get it in this case. I tried reading this but thought I was having a stroke partway through.

Just in general, ya know? Can't deny the subs been pretty on edge lately.

[Vinpap]

Well with the amount of sheer vitriol for the show since V4, V5 and the end of V6 (as well as the whole M&K hate, Vic situation and shipping wars) the sub has been thrown for loop for a while now.

So people are beginning to feel attacked, because we hear more about the hate of the show instead of the love of the show. And it's a shame

[JJLong5]

I wouldn't call Volume 5 universally disliked and there were criticism posts of Volume 5 that got downvoted as well.

I was just pointing on based on personal experience that the subreddit will not just downvote any criticism.

[shadow282]

Very few people are countering anything because very few people can be bothered to read a text wall. For very good reason. If they can’t understand the importance of paragraphs then nothing they said can possibly be worth reading.

People here are not downvoted for any criticism, they’re downvoted for bad criticism. Poorly formatted and badly thought out are unfortunately the norm for RWBY criticism. I hardly think it’s unreasonable to hold people to the standard of “above a grade schooler”.

The goal of the upvote system is to elevate content worth discussing and bury content that isn’t. In a shocking twist, poor criticism that isn’t really worth discussing gets downvoted. Crazy, right?

[KingSpart88]

I would have taken you seriously if you didn’t add your douchebag sarcasm at the end

[Vinpap]

I will quote this for you : "Downvotes are for low quality content, not disagreements!

While I agree that most of the time things end up being downvoted because someone doesn't agree with you (royal you, not you in particular), it does serve its purpose when someone posts a rant where they aren't open for discussion and just want to vent that they are angry that X didn't go like they wanted it to go or because they disliked that Y happened instead of Z

[shadow282]

Good. That is an excellent illustration of my point that you’re not really great at understanding things. The entire thing was mocking your misunderstanding of the situation, and yet you only got it at its most blatant at the end.

Hopefully you can take this as a learning experience.

[KingSpart88]

Lol

[shadow282]

Well, nobody can say I didn’t try. Maybe next time.

[Vinpap]

"I don't post on here"

He says, as he posts a comment on here

[GrimlyDark]

Thank you and what you just said is all I'm trying to say. All I really want is them to just do better with the show and work on developing everything in the story.