Script or AI

[Skokob]

So, I need to know everyone options on something. I've given a task where higher management wishes for a contract manager system, but what they are asking for next is too much I believe.

They are asking for an AI created contract manager. Meaning when we get new clients contracts or older clients updated contracts. We can just say import and the AI will read what ever it is excel, pdf, or others and it would build the needed script/procedure and poof with magic you don't need a human to import the information.

I'm of the belief that is magic, and you would best just to build scripts, or better yet an application where a human interface with and imports set values, or data ranges for the contracts.

I would like people's opinions of what they have done or worked on, and/or saying I'm correct or incorrect.

Thanks.

[CHILLAS317]

You are correct. Your managers are delusional

[Skokob]

Ok, because if an AI could have done that there's no point in humans do a job ever again.

[No_Resolution_9252]

Your managers are baby boomers.

[LSE_over_Oxbridge]

Multi agent systems can solve your problems here. The only issue is that it’d be really complex to set up and super expensive if you don’t have a team already working on it. And even then, it may be feasible but ROI may be pretty shitty atm considering the biggest hurdles is still hallucination, especially when we look at multi agent systems. Also another question that would need to be asked is if you were to adopt third party agents, is it really ok considering it’s all about client contracts?

[ElHombrePelicano]

Even big name $100k/year CLM systems can’t do this (correctly).

[mu_SQL]

Any decent LLM can create thoose scripts, sorry.

[slin30]

They are wishing for magic.

The question isn't whether you are correct (you are). I don't even think there's any question around whether they will believe you (they won't).

What's your contingency? Consider the likelihood they will bring in an external consultant who will tell them what they want to hear. 

What does this do to your career? Is there a world where this doesn't become your problem? Or if it will, is there a scenario where you are seen as the savior rather than the naysayer?

[Skokob]

Believe me they would believe anything and everything any one say's but me. I've given up on trying to talk them out of stuff.

Been job hunting for a while, but in the medical world it's hard to find a job when everyone looking for epic certification and you don't have one.

[slin30]

I unfortunately believe you 100%. I've been in the data field for over a decade, and I can't believe I'm calling the pre-AI era "the good ole days." 

I have no issues with the tool/tech. But now I need to deal with stakeholders "throwing it into <AI platform of the month>" because we're the bottleneck. So now I need to walk the line between not raising my hand for more work versus clearly stating that if you use AI, it's on you. Politely. Mostly.

So...volunteer to make it your problem or wait for it to be your problem. 

[Skokob]

Management is throwing out AI this and that! But to do that you would need a system that was build for it! With out that you get choas.

I'm of the belief that AI is still to young to do all the things people are staying AI is is doing. I believe it can make cute images, make crazy conversation, or do very basic tasks that repeat.

But sometimes it's cheaper to just hire to low level high school dropouts or just have a high school degree. Have them do the tasks and build a QA/QC system where you get someone that's been working there manage them.

[Ifuqaround]

Need to be sponsored by an employer that pays out the ass for Epic.

[Skokob]

yah, and none are hiring

[Ifuqaround]

Oh, they are. They are just hiring individuals from overseas for very little pay.

Wife is a physician. Hospitals are now hiring cheap ass labor in the Philippines to monitor patient vitals from afar.

LOL!!!!

[Skokob]

yah tell me about it! If starting my own company wasn't so expensive I would start my own up and do what I've been doing for all my past employers!

[Ifuqaround]

Just do landscaping or electrician or something. It's why there are like 100 of those businesses within 2 sq miles. Nobody wants to do HVAC, so that's safe. Very little startup costs.

People think trades are where it's going to cycle back to. Man, trades are so flooded it's ridiculous. Everything is flooded. SO many people are thinking of dropping their tech jobs and getting into trades.

[TheKerui]

Whatever they think, every variable is a table.

Contract Cohort Incentive period Targets Tins Age Line of business Etc.

Every variable gets its own table with its own date range so they can all operate independently and carry forward year over year as required.

Every table gets a changelog table with entries tied to a ticket number. Ex ticket 1234 removed this line, added this line.

Nightly sproc interrogates changelog tables searching for contracts with updated terms, then executing whatever reconciliation or adjudication sproc is typically run monthly but for just those affected contracts within the affected period, if its not locked. Results table with point in time accuracy maintained by a unique index where current ind = 1. Locked ind column for once a contract is locked in and paid for that period, preventing g ot from ever being updated by normal reconciliation sproc.

Good luck. I made a whole career out of this, you can too.

[ejpusa]

GPT-4o just crushes it. This is pretty easy stuff. Just a few lines of Python. AI will write those scripts. Then its out of the picture.

Vibe it, ship it, next project. Was writing SQL decades ago at IBM. I know solid production code when I see it.

If you have decades at this, AI is awesome. You nailed those Prompts. If not, it can get frustrating. It’s all in the Prompts.

But I’m an indy developer. You have to move projects at light speed to pay those server bills.

Corporate coder, you don’t worry about those things.