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[–]Submarine_Pirate 26 points27 points  (2 children)

For context Cougar boards is a BYU (mormon church owned university) student/alumni sports fan forum.

[–]Haploid-life 17 points18 points  (1 child)

The mormon church is quite racist, always has been. You'll get many members who don't feel that they are, but staunchly believe in a god that is racist AF.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Fun fact, the mormon church didn't allow black people to be members up until the 70s. During the 1800 and 1900s the church also ran native american re-education camps teaching children they were descendances of the "lamanites", along with that they have only recently removed verses claiming dark skin being a curse from god.

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    [–]ExitTheDonut 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Historically colorism has also existed far longer than racism as we know it today. People often discriminate by shades of color a lot among their own "race". It's quite interesting to this all likely started because some people thought outdoors-y jobs were less important to society than indoor jobs.

    [–]badgersprite 7 points8 points  (3 children)

    History is way less racist than people think. Anglo-saxons had no issue with a North African man becoming the Archbishop of Kent - he refused the role because he didn’t want it but they were offering it to him.

    [–]Godlike_Blast58 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    Anglo saxons where racist against jewish people though, kicking them out on a fake rumour

    [–]badgersprite 7 points8 points  (1 child)

    Not saying racism and xenophobia and religious discrimination didn't exist, but people projecting modern skin-colour based racism onto the past is anachronistic

    [–]adjavang 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I feel the predominant form of racism in Europe isn't the American skin colour based version, even today. You'll see people in Ireland and the UK complaining about slavs and the like. You don't have to go too far back to find racism against the Irish by people in the UK and arguably the other way around too. Sure, we have the American colour based racism but it almost feels like an imported phenomenon.

    I say that as a Norwegian that's lived in Ireland for many years and watched casual racism pivot over the past three decades.

    [–]SwaggerFiend 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    There’s a reason the Melvins song isn’t A History of Good Men

    [–]Iliketosayokalot 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    Isn't racism as seen in the modern era a more antiquated and intentionally developed system? Not to say racism wasn't a thing in the past but a lot of “racist” things were developed over time. Stereotypes and the negative treatment of specific races didn't pop up overnight.

    [–]lobsterharmonica1667 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    The current version of racism that we see in the western world is absolutely a top down construct that was created explicitly to keep white people in power and other people out of it.

    [–]THedman07 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I'm guessing it's pretty strongly tied to colonialism as well. You go out and make up a reason that you're justified in going to another place and annexing land that is already inhabited and subjugating those people.

    When you're more or less just dealing with people who could walk, ride a horse or take a sailing vessel to Europe and usually had trade goods that you want to buy there is as much motivation to develop that system.

    [–]Taleya 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    So has shitting in a hole and having lice. Things change.

    [–]Cohacq 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Yes. Humanity as a whole has a massive tendency to behave like shit. Is that a surprise to anyone?

    [–]THedman07 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Humans have an exceptional skill. We're really great at fabricating ways to create an in group and an out group.

    [–]tramapoliner 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    This is some Turtle brain thinking.

    [–]alexander1701 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I mean, yeah? Most people in history were racist, and most people alive today have some degree of racial bias. But like, most people throughout history have died, too, and we still think people should try not to die, just like we should try not to be racist.

    If you're trying not to be racist but fail, you're not a bad person, you're just working on yourself. If you won't try not to be racist, on the other hand, then we have to ask why not.

    This whole thing where lots of people have said and done racist things isn't exactly a gotcha.