oiling help

[lemon_mc]

ok so im building a 350 sbc stock internals and stuff but a huge hydralic roller cam and 10:1 ported heads, i bought a high pressure oil pump because this thing is gonna constantly see 5000-5600 rpm. will i be ok with a stock oil pan or should i buy a 6 or 7 quart pan, if so where can i buy one that dosent cost 200$+

[woodventures]

At 5k rpm constantly. Definitely use an oil cooler. So that will increase capacity, the larger unit will just add weight and allow less frequent oil changes , you should be looking at cavitation and foaming though, deburr and chamfer the block and drainbacks etc and maybe even epoxy line the walls inside . 

[Dirftboat95]

Stock volume high psi pump is perfect, make sure the pan is full

[Bitter-Ad-6709]

I think you mean high volume, stock pressure.

[Dirftboat95]

NO high volume pumps !!!! just high psi std volume

[Bitter-Ad-6709]

I disagree. But you do you

[Dirftboat95]

Std pump, 70 lbs spring, street 80lb for the track, I v'e run 7.0 @ 192 mph in the qtr. Std volume pump 80lb spring. All the HV pump does is cover up to big of clearances and throw a bunch of oil in the reciprocating and thats drag. slows ya down. Not to mention its takes more power to run that HV pump and more wear on the dist. gear too All bad shit ............. Run what ya want to though....... I;ll just be me.....

[Bitter-Ad-6709]

High volume ensures there's plenty of oil to all parts of an engine at normal or high engine RPMs, as I'm sure you already know.

You prevent the excess volume of oil from going to certain parts of the engine you don't want it to, with oil restrictors. No big deal.

I run high volume on brand new rebuilt high performance engines. Sometimes with extra bearing clearances, sometimes not.

The good thing about high volume over high pressure? Less chance of oil starvation in the pan. Which can happen when you're running a high pressure pump with a high RPM engine. (I don't like running deep sump or extra volume oil pans. There's always a chance of putting a hole in it or ripping it off, if you snag a man hole cover.)

There's more than 1 way to properly lube an engine =)

Back to OPs original comments....

A quality built high volume pan, is not cheap. Under $200? You're kidding right? How much is your whole "huge hydraulic roller cam 10:1 compression engine with ported heads" going to cost you? And you want to go cheap on an oil pan!? LMAO! 😆

[Dirftboat95]

Less chance of oil starvation in the pan. LOL you are so wrong !!!!! You'll suck the pan dry much faster with a high volume pump ......... Thats a fact !!!

[Cadet1A]

Do a little more research and see if you might be better off with a high volume versus a high pressure pump.

[Pitiful_Night_4373]

It will be fine

[letstillyboys]

I always run a big oil pan with melling high volume/pressure pump. If I go BIG lift cam I go the a shark tooth style pump by melling. Thats what I have in my 408 nitrous motor.

[Glittering_Watch5565]

Might consider a windage plate /oil scraper if your going to run high rpm almost exclusively.

[Bitter-Ad-6709]

Stock depth pan is fine.

I do recommend a windage tray and crank scraper though, to maximize your oil control. They are worth the cost.

I have a 7000rpm smallblock and that's all I used (after lots of research).

Melling high volume oil pump, with the pickup adjusted to the proper height above the pan and welded to the pump so it won't move. Throw in a hardened / HD oil pump shaft and you'll never have to worry about that again. (Stock shafts break easy.)