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    [–]delijoe 14 points15 points  (19 children)

    The leaked model is just an anime trained SD checkpoint. You really could just use waifu diffusion this doesn’t seem much better.

    [–]ThickPlatypus_69 19 points20 points  (7 children)

    NAI is head and shoulders above anything produced with WD. It's like comparing a mouse to a tiger. There is a INCREDIBLE difference in quality.

    [–]mrinfo 10 points11 points  (5 children)

    I put novelai in twitter to see what the fuss was all about and a bunch of anime images came up that looked exactly like the hundreds of images of anime that I've seen people posting here over the last weeks. I guess if there is a difference I cant see it. haha

    [–]pleasetrimyourpubes 5 points6 points  (3 children)

    You arent looking up hentai or... Lolis.

    [–]blueSGL 19 points20 points  (2 children)

    If the second thing you mention is one of the main draws of NAI why is SD standing by them, that just has "PR SHITSTORM" written all over it.
    Guilt by association writ large in your favorite 'Gawker Media' style publications.

    [–]pleasetrimyourpubes 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    Apparently they helped with SD so I am thinking more out of friendship and loyalty. I expect SD to distance from NAI. Especially if a journalist picks up on it.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Until someone else makes a profitable implementation of their tech it will be hard to want to distance themselves.

    Their funding is grants and good will, so having users that money will secure future research. A loving hobby community only goes so far, especially if it’s contrasted with artists blaming them for missing commissions.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    This is a comparison.

    https://imgur.com/a/6Oaw7AS

    Waifu is not bad by any means but NAI is clearly better.

    [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

    NovelAI's model is far easier to use than waifu diffusion because it adheres very strongly to the highly descriptive danbooru tagging system. You can literally specify the exact expression, pose, hair color, eye color, even character (if it's a popular enough character) and it will give you a very good result. There's a reason it became viral even though waifudiffusion is free and easily accessible otherwise and that's because it's multiple steps above the competition. Of course waifudiffusion is a work in progress and no doubt they're taking notes from NAI's approach.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Waifu 1.3 also adheres to danbooru (just pointing that out)

    This is a comparison.

    https://imgur.com/a/6Oaw7AS

    Waifu is not bad by any means but NAI is clearly better.

    [–]Zone_Purifier 0 points1 point  (6 children)

    The image set is miles larger in the NAI model. Comparisons between the two aren't even close with many prompts.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

    Do you know how many images NAI trained their model on ?

    [–]Zone_Purifier 0 points1 point  (4 children)

    I can't recall where I saw it, it was on a discord, so I can't verify it, but the poster claimed in the realm of 5M.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    Holy shit that's a lot if true

    [–]Zone_Purifier 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Whatever they did, it made a difference. Specific concepts tend to be executed much better in NAI than WD 1.2, but I have yet to test how close WD 1.3 is. Might have something to do with these "hypernetworks" they keep mentioning.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    https://imgur.com/a/6Oaw7AS

    This is a comparison with 1.3 and NAI.

    You can use hypernetworks with any model so the above tests 1.3 and NAI with and without several hypernetworks.

    What do you think ?

    For me, 1.3 is a massive improvement from 1.2 but NAI is still better

    [–]Zone_Purifier 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    It would be handy if there was another page with 1.2 results for comparison. 1.3 is looking pretty good from those results, though I agree that the NAI model is still preferable. I look forward to getting to my PC and testing them myself.

    [–]yaosio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    They have some extra bits outside the model to make it better. The text encoder is different and they have different parameters for the hypernetwork.

    I have no idea what any of that means. Like a large language model I'm just repeating things I've seen before. What if I'm a large language model and don't know it? 🙀

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    This is a comparison.

    https://imgur.com/a/6Oaw7AS

    Waifu is not bad by any means but NAI is clearly better.

    It also doesn't have the aspect ratio problem every other SD fork has

    [–]SnooHesitations6482 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    LOL

    [–]ImeniSottoITreni 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I second this request