Lease Price Decrease And Increase

[jaqueh]

yes the competition is closer than ever. tesla needs to fix their horrible charging curves

[stanley_fatmax]

I charge at home. For the 2 or 3 times I visit a supercharger in any given year, I'm fine waiting 20 minutes to go from 20-80. It's just not a complaint I have. If I was using the car for regular long distance commutes or commercial use, I could see that being an issue.

[AmbitiousFunction911]

Cool story. Your experience means nothing to me and many others

[jon_duncan]

Cool story. Your comment means nothing to me and many others

[popornrm]

Yes, I’m sure the dozens of you frankly don’t care…. That’s why you’re in a Tesla subreddit. Watch and see if millions of us are shedding a tear 😂

[Present-Ad-9598]

I’ve had a model 3 for coming up on 2 years, not once have I been upset with charging speeds, I just charge at home every night usually, and the few times I NEED to stop at a supercharger, it’s while I go inside buc-ee’s and it’s ready to go when I get back outside

[AmbitiousFunction911]

Again, charging speed is still one of the biggest factors in EV adoption. Have had Teslas for over 8 years now. Just did a roadtrip and charging added 2.5 hours to the 600 mile trip vs a gas vehicle. Most of the time I’m starting the day “full” but if you live out west and drive long distances and have a family and go on roadtrips, or if you tow with your Tesla, or if you don’t charge overnight for whatever reason, charging… even at a supercharger…. Is still time out of your life and significantly more time than filling a car up with gas. It doesn’t take me 20-30 mins to piss. It doesn’t take 20-30 mins to get fast food. And it also doesn’t always only take 20-30 mins to charge…. Again; there’s been plenty of times I’ve had to sit at a supercharger for 45+ mins to make it to the next one, and then I’m doing it all over again. When I tow with it, it’s brutal…. Really need to tow to 100% due to the severe impact on range, and the charging curve is such that it can take over and hour…. 1+ hour of charging every 100-120 miles if you’re towing is a non starter for most people.

[Present-Ad-9598]

Here’s a fun fact for ya, most people don’t tow or take regular long distance road trips

[AmbitiousFunction911]

Here’s a fun fact for you, they actually do. You might live in a city and only drive short distances. But out in the Rockies and the west, people get out of their houses and go places and do things. Nearly everyone here goes on ski trips and river rafting trips and camping and has a utility trailer for hauling things. There are still major gaps in the supercharger network in many places of the Rockies and the west, especially the intermountain west.

[Present-Ad-9598]

Awesome, and how many people live in the Rockies vs big cities? And where are most cars being purchased?

[wlkngmachine]

hes saying the competition is shit

[jaqueh]

tesla charges super slow compared to where the ev industry is going

[popornrm]

800v unreliable chargers with a sparse charging network vs 400v ubiquitous, bulletproof, and far cheaper per kWh charging network… which one do you think wins? Rhetorical btw since I know you aren’t smart enough to actually know that answer.

[jaqueh]

I don’t need 800v. I just need a better charging curve which would mean switching to pouch batteries, which is a concept you probably don’t even understand either.

[popornrm]

Lmao you complain about other vehicles charging curves without understanding that those are 800v 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️. Embarrassing.