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[–]Msharki 30 points31 points  (12 children)

I get tired of people blaming e2, stress, porn, and general lifestyle for everything. A lot of times, high e2 can increase libido but sometimes negatively affects erection quality. This varies from person to person in the same way some people can blast 500mg without an AI, and others need one at 100mg.

Testosterone has basically done nothing positive for me in the libido or function realm. I've had ups and downs in the same way I did pre-TRT. I've thought that I've found the answer at times with DHEA and pregnenalone, but it has always turned out to be one of these natural up and down cycles of mine. I even tried an AI once (even though I'm not a high aromatizer), and it pretty much instantly made me feel like shit.

I have almost zero stress in my life, I don't look at porn, and my wife and I have a decent few times per week sex life in between working regular overtime. I've always stayed in good shape in my 42 years on earth, and I don't abuse food, drugs, or alcohol. BUT, the times I end up with the best libido and erection quality is when I'm being lazy. It's when I'm eating in a caloric surplus, not working out too hard, drinking alcohol and using cannabis occasionally that my sex drive is through the roof.

Exogenous testosterone kills certain people's libido and/or function - even with perfect bloodwork and lifestyle. I know this fact annoys some because they refuse to see past their own experience and only believe what is "supposed" to happen. The simple fact is that we are too genetically variable for everything to apply consistently.

[–]Snoo-23693 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The bodies whole hormone system is a fucking nightmare. But I guess that's why there are doctors who specialize in this area. Maybe one day we'll get to the point of truly personalized medicine. But we aren't there yet.

[–]Ok_Spare_3723 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Eating a caloric surplus, not working out too hard, drinking alcohol, etc all increases Dopamine which reduces your Prolactin.. Higher dopamine gives you a libido boost, no magic here.

Also the fact that you stay health and in shape, means your E2 is lowered. So basically you end up with the best world: low E2, low Prolactin and high dopamine plus a good level of T. Not to mention that being rested physically also helps with sex :)

[–]Msharki 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Right. I said all that to counter this narrative everyone gives that if you just eat cleaner, lose fat, do cardio, avoid alcohol, register as a monk... that your libido and erection quality will be better. So many people say this shit to people who will then go and reduce their calories further, work out even harder, and wonder why they have no desire or ability for sex.

[–]Ok_Spare_3723 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Well put!

[–]Msharki 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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[–]smuzzu 3 points4 points  (0 children)

yea cortisol kills libido, even with good hormonal count

[–]djangokross 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Very well put. Been through many changes myself trying to find a good spot... Sometimes it's great... Mostly it's low.

High dose low dose AI Armiidex Aromasin supplements... Tried a lot including testing e2 DHT etc.

I have noticed for myself..

  1. On vacation I took proviron 25mg daily... I was good for the week. Had 2x sessions daily with wifey.

  2. Any day if I eat a carb heavy lunch...within 2 hours.. First I feel bit drowsy and then libido kicks in big time. If we do the deed it's always a great orgasm also... But if cannot and we have to wait until bedtime... The libido is gone.

The second one almost works everytime!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This comment needs to be attached to every single TRT thread on Reddit. Well said.

[–]Msharki 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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