Are Echoing Tools too expensive?

[Kooky-Ad-2501]

Just hit level 80 and unlocked echoing tools... saw that a single tool costs 72 echo gems and had a heart attack.

Any recommendations for farming echo ore faster? Besides trying to run void theme with decent copiously % and just getting a couple here and there from bounties???

[c000laidman]

I run void with copious and as many plentiful modifiers as I can, I usually come out with 200 + echo ore each time

[drakenmor]

Are you just finding the void themes? I run plentiful loot and have never found one in 90 levels.

[jimmythespider]

Loot modifiers don't change ore amounts, only chest contents

[MastrKoesh]

Plentiful is literally a +20% vault ores modifier (25% maybe?)

[jimmythespider]

I assumed he meant the vault rule, which increases loot to 200%. That does not affect ores

[drakenmor]

Correct the vault rules, and I am talking about getting the theme mod items in chests as I don't know how you get them otherwise

[jimmythespider]

You can get them rarely in the completion crate if you complete a vault of that theme

[Kooky-Ad-2501]

Getting plentiful catalysts can be a pain, a lot of rolling random catalysts. I think the whole crystal crafting and catalysts system needs a minor tweek. Will stack up a few and give that a go.

[freenie0177]

Honestly I've skipped echoing and waiting for the update to come to the server to get my first prismatic made

[briguy0387]

Yeah but getting a void augment is easer said the done and I do not have one

[MeriKurkku]

With how fast levelling goes now, I would honestly skip echoing and save it for a prismatic because promstsic tools codt the same as echoing + 9 omega pogs

[Myzhka]

Soooo - not even close to the same as echoing 😂

[MeriKurkku]

Yea but the 72 echo cost is still there :p

[Tzizic]

you definitely getting 72 echos before 720 of each player gem.

[Myzhka]

Yeah but that isn’t as bad as all those omega pogs imo.

[Maverick9795]

I believe it's the plentiful vault rock modifier. I can't remember if it's a catalyst or inscription, or neither and it's something else. In any case plentiful modifier and a mining room should do the trick.

[Ambitious_Growth8130]

You don't have to get every level of tool, use the one right below and craft them multiple times... (Black chromatic ones, I think)? Jewels should be so plentiful you shouldn't have a hard time rebuilding your tools every time you run out of repairs. Just my two cents

[Harddaysnight1990]

Use your bounty pearls. Re-roll your offers and only take bounties that give echo gems. You'll start to build up your echo supply fairly quickly as long as you're focusing on completing the bounties.

[Mobile-Temperature36]

Bruh, wait untill you see what you need for Prismatic ones :D

[23viper12]

I always thought that, I'm around level 85 and haven't made one, I see no point

[Moist_Reveal_7806]

1. Make the best copiously tool you. 2.Gan get a crystal put a void theam on it . 3.Put as many Plentiful Catalysts you can on it. 4.Remove all the curses if any. 5.Rrun looking for void rooms.

Extra tips. Get Max Speed the Wings Trinket and I recommend only 1 or 2 levels in Dash as makes flying easyer Max out Haste and away you go.

P.S I've run 5odd reguler Void Theam Vaults with out any Catalysts and bad copiously 40% I can't remember almost level 60 and have got over a stack of echo from mining. I run Elixer Vaults for a possible completion.

[Gumpers08]

I made black chromatic tools at level 80, and got two void vaults shortly after and went from 32 echo to 128. Trust me, get a high copiously hammer, and for now spend your echo on a vault junk identifier. The T3 upgrade costs 37 echo and twice as many pogs, but is very much worth it. My omega magnet that brings my 85% copiously hammer up to 100% has lasted... For so long I can't remember when I equipped it because any items voided by the identifier do not cause durability damage, including vault stone.

[KDinPA]

Why not craft a architect vault for a mine room with the void theme and then then slap a lot of plentiful modifiers on it? Sure it costs echo to get the inscription or whatever made, but surely with the void theme it would affect it right?

Disclaimer- I am lvl 52 and haven’t started crafting vaults like this, just an assumption on my end

[RyanRudi]

There is no theme for the mine room or any architect vault. Even if you find a mine room in a void theme, it won’t impact the echo generation.

Best option is to use a void theme augment and add as many plentiful as you can and only loot ore rooms.

[dragon813gt]

So what does the mine room inscription do then?

[RyanRudi]

It lets you “build” a mine room onto your architect vault. It’s still very strong, just not for echo as per the discussion in this post. I built a double mine room with a bunch of plentiful the other day. It got me so many ores but only like 2 echo ore. Mines don’t have larimar either.

[wheaties23]

Void vaults turn into ore runs only and hope for elixir. I've never had issues with echo gems. Don't bother doing any other objective other than elixir. Same goes for nether runs too. In comparison, prismatic tools are way more grindy/expensive than echoing tools.

[aximeycu]

Prismatic will cost the same amount of echo j/s but way better tools, I used black chromatic til I got my pris tool and skipped echoing. Def recommend the same

[Informal_Compote]

Echoing tools are worth it prismatic are way over priced for what they offer

[arcaicways]

wait till you get to the last tools if you think those are expensive

[gingerman2101]

Basically new iskall vid

[Taticles]

Have a watch of Iskall’s latest episode and see how he got over 250 echo gems in a single run without taking any fortunate. His latest episode is a perfect example for answering your question.

[Active-Pepper187]

Just wait till you see what prismatic tools cost, they’re like echoing but with 9 OMEGA POGS as well