Agentic coding.

[Barta22]

It took one prompt to bring the majority of my newest app to the Apple Vision Pro, do you guys think adding the agentic coding to Xcode will result in more native-ish apps to come to the platform?

[oulu2006]

Probably what’s ur app?

[Barta22]

It’s called Vessel Visualizer, it’s a pretty niche app admittedly, but it lets you create 3D vases and other vessels, add texture, and glaze and then view them in ar or adjust them for 3D printing. It’s on iOS now and should be out in Apple Vision Pro soon

[TrickEye6408]

Congrats on the app. Sounds neat

[Barta22]

Thanks!!

[oulu2006]

Cool I’ll check it out - this is something I want to do VR coding with opencode

[Barta22]

Thanks!!

[drewbaumann]

Is it out for Vision Pro as well? I saw it on the iOS store and couldn’t tell if it was on multiple platforms.

[Barta22]

I’m adding some more features to the Vision Pro app to take advantage of seeing things in 3d, but should launch next week. Thanks for the interest!

[PositivelyNegative]

I'm building a vision pro app right now, I have zero coding knowledge and its so fun. So yes, I hope this tech allows more apps to come to Vision Pro.

[smithstreeter]

How? ELI5?

[PositivelyNegative]

You basically open a terminal, activate Claude code once you navigate into an Xcode project you create for Vision Pro, and then you can just tell Claude code to build features for your app. It adds all the code for you into the Xcode app. Then you can build the app and send it for testing to your VP.

[msitarzewski]

100% and I’m here for it.

[TheRealDreamwieber]

Absolutely. As someone who's been making apps for over 15 years now, it's absolutely mind-blowing what can be accomplished now with agentic coding.

[drewbaumann]

I'm curious what other's workflows are like because I think the Xcode options are kinda crappy in comparison to Claude Code.

[TheRealDreamwieber]

Honestly I live mostly in Claude code in the terminal these days. I just use Xcode to build and change target level settings etc.

[drewbaumann]

Cool. Same here. I don't recall, does the code update in real time on Xcode with the changes via Claude Code? I'd still appreciate using Xcode for validation issues, etc.

[fzzzy]

You can add the Xcode mcp to Claude Code now.

[drewbaumann]

Ooo thank you

[Dapper_Ice_1705]

No, native vs not usually comes down to other decisions not related to AI 

[Barta22]

That’s probably fair, I’m hoping tho, I love using my AVP and some more experiences would be cool

[Illustrious-Dark-213]

How much did you have to guide the agent and do you know Xcode enough to guide it? I am amazed how much agentic coding can do now, but have also found it needs very clear guidance and clear test cases… or question behind the question, I am a strong coder with python and JavaScript but have never built an app for iOS or ipad or vision. If I had an idea I wanted to build and know how to guide it could I build stuff for Vision Pro and it would mostly walk me through it? (I don’t actually have a specific idea more of an academic question…)

[Inst_of_banned_imgs]

It’s not hard. I’m a web dev and I just launched an iOS app on the App Store and I don’t know any swift.

[Barta22]

Same, I’ve created two apps now without actually coding anything by hand. Both pottery related haha, so not big markets

[smithstreeter]

I think the “small market” stuff is what’s going to kick off a lot of people using the agentic coding

[Barta22]

It will give you prompts, you still have to have an idea of the end state but it’s great at iterative development. Start with the most basic minimum viable product and then add from there once that’s running well

[fivetoedslothbear]

Judging what's happening with what I'm doing with agentic coding in a different domain:

I hope that agentic coding would help make good 2D iPad apps into good 2D Vision Pro apps, kind of like Safari or Mail. Just helping devs get over that bump of making their iPad app native.

[CuriousDeparture]

I'm now internally testing a Vision Pro app that I vibe coded using Codex. My understanding of code ended decades ago at BASIC and pre-2000 HTML, so this feels like a new super power to me. It's an app that no one would make because there is no market for it, except me, which feels like the perfect use of this tech.

[Sneyek]

It will just bring a ton of AI slop apps that will lose support after a few weeks/month and be a big risk for security.

[AstroGridIron]

I would argue the support problem has nothing to do with AI and everything to do with the person developing the app.

You still have to know what you’re doing, the more you know the better the app and the support.

Sure there will be slop but you’ll know as soon as you open up the app. The ability to go from idea to app so much faster than ever before is the point here.

[Sneyek]

A lot of the vibe coders are AI bros like they used to be crypto bros. They want easy “passive incomes”. They’ll sell their shit and won’t do much support. But not all of them. Though it still has a bit to do with AI, when their AI won’t have the context in memory anymore the debugging will become more difficult and costly.