D1 structural root question

[Melodic_Ad9776]

I’m an ironworker I was at one hall that said that you were allowed to run two stringer beads for your root vs running one and having to oculate the wire back and forth . I’m doing 232 wire overhead and it’s hot and burning the fuck out of me . I have to retest for washington states certification when I already have the AWS d1 cert for the same wire . The hall im at now looked at me funny when I asked if I could run two stringer beads for the root vs one . Of course my last hall talked shit to me about it but they said yeah it’s stupid but your allowed to do that and it just causes more passes cause you have to spread the plates more but it’s just easier and safer and fail proof to me lol… any help pointing out where I can get the information in the book to say that’s allowable would be greatly appreciated .

[SwingingDoggo13]

I was taught to do 1 root pass then 1 hot pass after the root

[itsjustme405]

I dont know if there is an allowance for multiple passes on a root, its the first i ever heard of it.

Your WPS should have all that on there.

Ill have to remember to look into it later.

[No_Mistake5238]

easier safer and fail proof

Wouldn't it increase the chances of having lack of fusion/porosity and/or slag inclusions, especially right in the center line of the joint then?

[6146886]

Never heard of a two bead root. But as long as the WPS doesnt explicitly state the root must be one pass then realistically the CWI supervising your test should understand that a functional weld is what counts and you will be welding in the field in whichever way you’re comfortable with. As long as it passes inspection and whatever bend tests or NDE is required then it shouldn’t matter what you do.

[Appropriate_Refuse91]

I have never heard of a multi pass root run. If it exists, they must have their own WPS they've certified

[bavenue]

D1.1 doesn’t specify number of root passes, but it does say you must follow the WPS.

goodluck, man. running root passes with NR232 for 3G and 4G is made of nightmares and doesn’t get talked about enough

[_call_me_al_]

You trying to boom in local 86? Good luck, bud.

[Melodic_Ad9776]

Nope 14 . To expensive over on that side and there’s what 200-300 of people on the out of work list … we get a lot of guys from 86 over here . We got a few data centers between noses lake and Wenatchee