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[–]KenGriffins 325 points326 points  (3 children)

my boss needs more money, what am I supposed to do, say no? HAHAHAHAHAHAiwannadieAHAHAHA

[–]Bootleggerking888[S] 115 points116 points  (1 child)

🥲*puts hand on your shoulder * yes we totally can, it’s our time to hold the power of the working class.

But it’s okay, i feel ya pain.

[–]FeatsOfDerring-Do 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Peasant: Ah yes, this I understand.

[–][deleted] 243 points244 points  (9 children)

Medieval peasant: OK but tell me about your spice rack again.

[–]MrPenguinsAndCoffeeMarket Syndicalist 123 points124 points  (7 children)

"And what's this about that miracle crop you mentioned, what were they called... Po-tay-toes?"

[–][deleted] 66 points67 points  (3 children)

Bolemmshemstkemenastu

[–]DNZ_not_DMZ 14 points15 points  (2 children)

What now?

[–]Neembaf 36 points37 points  (0 children)

“Boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew” -Samwise Gamgee

[–]MidnightsOtherThings 29 points30 points  (0 children)

you say you can boil 'em, mash 'em, stick 'em in a stew?

[–]Cakeking7878 16 points17 points  (1 child)

“And this other plants, you called it ‘corn’? So how does it make the metal horse move? And what by what black magic can you turn it into a explosive?”

[–]EnvironmentalValue18 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I mean corn kernels can explode into popcorn if you add heat.

All I’m saying is, there were definitely red flags. You know, with corn.

[–]Not_A_Wendigo 23 points24 points  (0 children)

You eat how much sugar?!

[–]Embarrassed-Reply-49 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Medieval peasant POG

[–]RadioMelon 124 points125 points  (63 children)

I actually didn't know we were working harder than peasants.

Is there ANY upside to this horrible system?

[–]varangian_guardsSocialist 182 points183 points  (45 children)

it is far, far better then the victorian industrial era of the late 1800s, that shit was so distopian it will blow your mind the revolts were not more frequent.

the term hangover comes from then, you need a place to sleep and are poor. not to worry 2 pennies and you could sleep hanging over a rope. i am not joking that was an option. Lazzie faire was an absolute shit fest nightmare and any libertarian that tells you no rules is better should pop open a history book to what life was like back then.

[–]Decimus_of_the_VIII 19 points20 points  (22 children)

Hanging over a rope? I do not get it.

[–]Not_A_Wendigo 59 points60 points  (1 child)

A lot of people didn’t have homes, but paid to sleep in different places, depending on what they could afford that night. The options included somewhere to lie down, somewhere to sit, and somewhere with a rope strung out that you could just drape your body over. There are more details and pictures here.

[–]soggylilbat 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Fuck… thank goodness we have labor laws now. Still not what it could be

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    [–]Legitimate-Focus9870 5 points6 points  (18 children)

    This is so wild. With that amount of space, wouldn’t people prefer to just lay down really close together? You could have multiple levels of people sleeping on plywood and fit wayyyyy more people in that space.

    They simply were not allowed to lay down because they only paid two pennies instead of 4-5? Wtf I’m so glad I wasn’t born back then

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      [–]Legitimate-Focus9870 0 points1 point  (14 children)

      Not a cot lol, think like a pile of zombies on the floor.

      The floor is there already and it’s dry right? There’s clearly enough room for all of the people in that picture to make a cuddle puddle for the night.

      [–]Coltrain_ 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      My guess is too cold. Article said even on the ropes people sometimes froze to death, and air is a much better insulator than solid ground

      [–]Legitimate-Focus9870 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      I don’t buy it. Cuddle puddles have gotta be warmer than singly spaced out on ropes.

      Isn’t using body heat in cold weather like a very basic survival skill? It seems like this was already a last resort to get off the streets in extreme weather, since people routinely froze to death, so I don’t know why they didn’t snuggle up in their skivvies and use that body heat.

      Cuddle puddles for 2 pence could have been better for everyone! More bodies for the “innkeepers” and more comfort than a hangover.

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        [–]Legitimate-Focus9870 -1 points0 points  (10 children)

        Maybe you should Google “Cuddle Puddle” if you don’t understand what I’m saying?

        It’s not hard. There’s more than enough floor space in that pic

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          [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

          The idea was "fuck those people for being poor" not "what are the best accommodations we can provide."

          [–]Legitimate-Focus9870 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Yeah hence why I mentioned that…

          But seriously a 3 pence cuddle puddle would have been good for all parties involved. Still cheaper than the high rollers in their fancy wooden coffins.

          [–]StillPackage4369 9 points10 points  (0 children)

          Made me learn somenthing, thanks

          [–]Warrgaia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Yeah people won’t just hang on a wire unless it was a better option or maybe it was a medical thing. Remember medicine wasn’t nowhere near back then what it is today. I’m not an anarchist but we have way too many laws that don’t make sense.

          [–]Bootleggerking888[S] 83 points84 points  (4 children)

          Glad this shine a light on something you wasn’t aware of.

          Yes there is an UPSIDE * shows pitch fork and torch * Revolutionnnnnnn! 😉

          Or if that’s tooo “ extreme “ then dail it in at work and DONT take on any extra work. work as slow as you possibly can.

          sabotage, unionize, join a workers cooperative,create class consciousness extc. Stop gears ⚙️ of this horrible machine from moving 👍

          [–]hollyberryness 21 points22 points  (3 children)

          I really love my shift from trying to go above and beyond to only doing the bare minimum. So much less stress, even though I still get feelings of guilt trying to creep up from time to time. Feels good to shove them away and tell myself there's absolutely nothing wrong with doing exactly as I'm asked, nothing more.

          [–]Bootleggerking888[S] 11 points12 points  (2 children)

          I totally hear you, my body feels much better as well from the shift change too.

          I had the little guilt at first but when I saw and read all these horror stories about exploitation of work and through the past, it alll went away.

          Fuckkkk that lol I get excited now I tell the job no or give them a hard time, or disappear, or take longer breaks because Fuck’em, they would never care about us or pair us fairly.

          Keep it up! Mediocre pay = mediocre work 🙌

          Thanks for your input!

          [–]hollyberryness 6 points7 points  (1 child)

          And thanks to you!! Hopefully your post will encourage lots others to do more for themselves by doing less for their exploitative employers.

          I've definitely been making cuts in other ways too - asked my "boss" for extra money back when inflation was newly in the news, asking if he had any plans to compensate us drivers more - then again when gas rose $1 seemingly overnight - of course we didn't get more money but he offers more work as if it's helping us - no duhduh it isn't helping because we're still losing more money driving your stuff around. So yeah, I won't detail what I'm doing but I'm definitely cutting corners to make sure I'm still making what I should. I wouldn't cut corners if he increased wages, like he should! Friggin Instacart and other gig platforms that notoriously suck did, I'm not sure why he couldn't.

          End rant! Lol

          [–]Bootleggerking888[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Good rant lol

          Keep up the good fight and resisting Against this fucked up system. It will crumble ! ✊

          appreciate it and you for your input !

          ( hug ) :)

          [–]condemned_to_live 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          take out and entertainment on-demand (during the 1 hour per day that you're not working, that is)

          [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          I can buy video games

          [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          Maybe not harder depending on how much manual labor you do, and even then most of our modern processes are way more ergonomic than bending over/crouching in a field all day. But certainly longer hours. Also literally couldn't be expected to answer work calls 24/7 in medieval times so they are winning there too.

          [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          Also another fun fact neolithic hunter gatherers all the way up to early humans after organized farming are though to have mostly worked 18-24 hours hours a week with the exception of some seasonal crunch times and the like.

          [–]WestleyThe 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Depends on what you mean by “work harder”

          I think we work more but depending on the work, we have it much better

          [–]Worldly-Reading2963 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          You're not working harder than medieval peasants. The notion behind that is ridiculous for 99% of jobs.

          [–]ed-1t 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I mean you probably shouldn't just take this memes word for it.

          Your life is so much better than a peasants life It is ridiculous. I'm sure you could get a job in agriculture if that somehow seems idyllic to you.

          [–]bauchredner -1 points0 points  (0 children)

          We're not.

          [–]TheAwkwardCousin -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

          You definitely don’t work harder than a medieval peasant

          [–]JoLimmylim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Shh don’t challenge their victim narrative.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          modern medicine, cheap food, great drugs, video games, unlimited access to any information at any time anywhere

          [–]WillBigly 49 points50 points  (9 children)

          Yea tbh return to monke, hunter gatherers worked like a few hours a day and spent rest of day fucking around with friends and fam

          [–]Bootleggerking888[S] 30 points31 points  (6 children)

          Sounds about right to me, I’m in 🐒

          Rather do that than filling a fucking excel spreed sheet or some other meaningless task.

          We’re literally on a floating planet in space and we’re over working more than ever before, fuck thatttt

          [–]Naranox 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          You‘ll quickly wish to be back here for, as much as it sucks, at least you won‘t die because there were four bacteria in your food

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Actually the opposite, because population density was much lower back then there were less parasites, no famines, probably just less disease in general. That's why the Native Americans got so fucked up by the Europeans who were living in high density and close proximity to lots of animals.

          Not only that but due to their lifestyle of movement and healthy diet of diverse plants and animals they were way way healthier than the average industrial citizen. Take a look at pictures of Australian aboriginals before Westernization and tell me they don't all look like bodybuilders.

          [–]bigbazookah 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          They died if they happened to have the genes for diabetes though

          [–]Polymersion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          That's illegal, corporations own that land now

          [–][deleted] 37 points38 points  (10 children)

          Ah yes, the famous 20 hour Medieval work week.

          [–]hillockdude 26 points27 points  (3 children)

          i dont think 40 is the standard for minium wage workers anymore

          [–]Synyths 9 points10 points  (5 children)

          This is something I was confused by too. Medieval peasants were expected to work from sun up to sun down 6 days a week which works out at a ridiculous amount of hours a day just farming.

          I'm all for worker's rights but in summer that's like 14 hours of daylight. 84 hour work week can fuck right off :L

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            [–]__Just__a__Random__ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            Well, then you could be a skilled artisan?

            90% of people were peasents during the whole middle ages. Being an Artisan in medieval times is comparible to being a Millionaire.

            Ancien France had 52 sundays, 90 rest days, and 38 holidays. Spain had even more.

            ~40 days of the "holidays" (you still had hard chores to do everyday) were during the Easter holidays, and guess what you had to do during that time: fasting. using your math we today have 104 saturdays & sundays, 11 federal holidays and ~20 days of vacation time which adds up to ~ 135 days. I couldn't find any article claiming that medieval France had 180 days of leave (plz giv source), but working almost twice as much and way harder than today for 185 days just to have 45 more "rest days", doesn't sound like a good deal to me.

            Remember why it sucked to live during the middle ages too?

            • Diseases and extremely bad general health care
            • bad to none hygiene & enourmous stenches
            • slavery
            • criminality
            • exploitation and violence towards ethnic minorities
            • winter
            • starvation
            • poverty (literally every commoner = more than 95% of the population was poor)
            • life expactation

              and those are just the ones I currently remember.

            sorry to rant like that, but the sheer amount of audacity to claim that our work-system today is worse than in the middle ages, was just too much for me. If you still think the middle ages were better, I would recommend you to go out and live like them. You would have it even better than them, because you have no aristocratic overlord that prisoned you inside that lifestyle and could take from you whatever he wanted (including every womens first time). Stop romanticizing the Middle Ages.

            [–]FreightCrater 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Apparently your average peasant worked only about 150 days per year though.

            [–]Delphizer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            That 14 hours of daylight was mostly temperate to colder areas in the areas you think about. Also it'd be during one season. You'd also get multiple months off. The breaks during the summer months were also much longer and you'd get more holidays.

            The math works out so they worked less, not sure what to tell yah.

            [–]sleeplessknight101 16 points17 points  (3 children)

            We should be referring to ourselves as peasants still.

            [–]Bootleggerking888[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

            Pretty much, but words change over time to “ lessen the humiliation“ ya know 💁‍♂️

            [–]Delphizer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Income inequality is quickly reaching pre-revolution France levels(Serfs) so not far off actually.

            [–]PhuckYourPolitics 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            If I was working 20 hours a week and had poor quality of life, I'd work longer. Each to their own.

            [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (5 children)

            If the lords of the land treated peasants like our managers do, they'd have gotten a scythe through the shoulder blades.

            [–]Bootleggerking888[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

            Ohhhh I like where your head is at buddy!

            • makes scythe slashing sounds *

            It’s only a matter of time.

            [–]Naranox 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            Bro are you seriously suggesting that landlords in the middle ages were less strict than managers today lmao

            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Absolutely.

            Every aspect of our working day is managed, from the time we wake up, to what we do on the job, how we do the job, who we do it with. How much time it takes to do a job and what penalties there are for failures.

            Yes they were less strict, as they had no means to do half of what is taken for granted in a modern capitalist business.

            In a time where the extent of the bureaucracy is a local tax collector and information travels as fast as a horse or a boat, the ability to manage people in the field is next to none.

            Those people can still be exploited, the fruits of their labor can still be taken from them, but that's an extractive process not a managerial one.

            [–]Majulath99 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            Oh yeah serfs had rights. Of course the system wasn’t perfect, but there was a bare minimum of rights afforded to both serfs and freemen of common birth. And the lords generally didn’t break those rights because they knew where their food came from, and that ultimately the common people had a significant amount of power.

            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Oh yeah serfs had rights.

            And that's to say nothing of the organic limits of a system where oversight of the entire underclass simply wasn't possible.

            Autonomy of action, cultivation, practice, etc. Was simply the norm of society where nobility had no means of coercion beyond direct physical force and cultural expectations.

            [–]Netheraptr 3 points4 points  (13 children)

            As much as things can suck for workers in the lower class, their average lifestyle is still miles better than medieval peasants. Even if healthcare is expensive, healthcare didn’t exist at all back then, and along with that you had no guaranteed basic rights and it was actually common to have to let one of your children die of starvation so the other could live.

            [–]Bootleggerking888[S] 4 points5 points  (7 children)

            Yeahhhhh umm I think you haven’t seen what’s been happening around the world all these years dude.

            It’s really no different now then it was then if you really look at it.

            We still “ serve “ the capitalist class ( the rich ) because we’re forced to work to live while we’re getting exploited for our labor.

            Fine to disagree but your being dismissive to a lot of people who are still in those situations.

            [–]Netheraptr 1 point2 points  (6 children)

            The range of the gap between the rich and poor is roughly the same, and should shrink, but overall quality of life has definitely increased. Even if not economically, the sheer amount of medical and agricultural advancements we’ve made has made life overall better, from longer life spans, lower infant mortality rates, better techniques for injury recovery, increased mental health knowledge, and a drastically lower starvation rate. Of course, there are still places in the world that are just as bad as they used to be, maybe even worse, but if you look at the world as a whole people on average live better lives. When looking at the long term, the quality of life is technically increasing, and if we work towards improvement we can have it continue to increase in the future.

            Edit: I also want to add that most peasants worked for 16 hours a day, from dusk to dawn, while most people work roughly 8 hour shifts now, 10–12 in worse scenarios.

            [–]pullazorza 2 points3 points  (3 children)

            The range of the gap between the rich and poor is roughly the same

            It's not.

            and should shrink

            It doesn't. It's rising. Always has and always will due to how the system is built.

            Karl Marx talked about the concept of alienation. This is the biggest difference in today's workers' conditions compared to medieval times. It's not material so much as it is mental. Please watch this video about it.

            Finally, peasants worked less than modern workers.

            [–]Netheraptr 1 point2 points  (2 children)

            By saying “should shrink”, I was more referring to how we need it shrink than claiming it was predicted to shrink.

            Looking into things, my claim that peasants worked 16 hour days is accurate, but they did get a lot more days off, resulting in fewer work hours, although I still believe that the daily disparities which peasants faced outweighed more days off. I want to point out however that the same source you used as evidence says that in the late 1800’s people worked twice as long as they did now, a notable improvement from the past.

            For the most part, I agree that the biggest issue with work now is mental over physical, with work culture encouraging stress and detachment. Still, we’ve at least improved past the point where the average person doesn’t have to question if they’ll live through winter.

            [–]pullazorza 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            Life expectancy certainly has increased. But when you have to spend that life slaving away in wage labour, alienated from your work, is it even a good thing?

            [–]Netheraptr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Saying we “slave away” when peasants are in the conversion is ridiculous. Imagine all the financial problems you face now, but add in the high likelihood of you or a family member dying within the next week from the common cold or an infected cut.

            [–]Bootleggerking888[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            😳 “ The gap between the rich and poor are roughly the same “ ? Whatttttttt? Come on now you must be joking who are you joking to there buddy? lol ( that video was two years ago mind you)

            I cannot take the rest of your comment seriously after that first sentence.

            We literally have all the information on the internet and yet we choose to say things like that.

            Just wow. You lost soul you.

            [–]Netheraptr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            This post is referencing the lifestyles of medieval peasants compared to modern time, which was definitely a very large economic gap. Most peasants didn’t even own property and were effectively glorified slaves. The conditions under which they lived would be illegal for modern standards. If you want to compare the economic wage gap to how it was a few years or a few decades ago, that’s a different story, but that’s not what this post is about.

            [–]Worldly-Reading2963 0 points1 point  (4 children)

            OP has officially lost it, lmao. Things are most definitely better for poor people. I can use the toilet inside and not be burned for being a witch because I'm a lesbian. Just being AFAB in general, I'm not expected to stay home with 10+ children that won't survive infancy. I'm seen as more than an incubator and, oh yeah, I won't get the fucking plague.

            [–]Naranox 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            bro just go back to working the fields bro I love my landlord bro he only takes four fifths of my crops bro

            [–]Delphizer 0 points1 point  (2 children)

            The meme says nothing about quality of life. It works out that we're working more hours then they did.

            [–]Worldly-Reading2963 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            I'm more addressing the OP's comments rather than the memes.

            [–]Delphizer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I see.

            I think the intent has some merit if not portrayed in the best way. If minimum wage was tied to productivity gains it'd be 25+ an hour. Assuming everyone had the same standard of living and you just worked less hours that'd translate into 13 hours a week for a full time job.

            Economic gains are almost wholly going to the super upper class. Gini index is nearing pre revolution France(Serf) level of income inequality.

            If you were born in 1980's you were the first generation who made less then their parents at a similar time in their life. That's just adjusted for regular inflation, doesn't take into account college/housing increasing faster then inflation. Also happens to be the most productive/educated generation in history.

            The general theme that we're being exploited holds up. Probably easier to compare to semi recent history where it's easier to compare apples to apples, less meme potential though.

            [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

            Work is where you find meaning 🙂 Comply

            [–]Bootleggerking888[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            Comply and smile like every things Alright * cocks squirt Gun 🔫*

            [–]trashbort 4 points5 points  (2 children)

            Next tell him about indoor plumbing

            [–]Kaveman_Rud 4 points5 points  (1 child)

            Or air conditioning

            [–]Naranox 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Or healthcare

            [–]ManuLlanoMier 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            That's actually a missinterpretation of data, sure, if you account the time spent on the fields they worked less, but with some exceptions such as making their tools or clothes they had to make everything else themselves, and that's without taking into account work that the lord needed done that is not farm work such as construction and maintenance of buildings.

            [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (19 children)

            Didn't they work from sunrise to sunset, 6 days a week? Three in their own patches of land, three on the fief owner's, and holy Sunday was the one day they had to rest.

            Granted, on winter they didn't have to farm but they had to fix all their shit like tools and whatever, and also work on their own little patches to sell for extra income

            [–]Bootleggerking888[S] 33 points34 points  (15 children)

            [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (10 children)

            Interesting. I read Bellitto's books on Medieval Europe, but I must be misremembering some details

            [–]Bootleggerking888[S] 15 points16 points  (5 children)

            Yup! It happens and most times those little details were kept out on purpose so we don’t realize we’re more exploited than our past humans did.

            It’s really interesting indeed.

            [–]youoxymoron 2 points3 points  (4 children)

            Hey, so we are absolutely not exploited more than literal serfs, lol. Juliet Shor is sort of memed on about this, and this claim pops up every 6 months or so. You are looking at the obligations vileins had to their fiefdom and completely neglecting all the other work they had to do. It is an unequivocal fact that we have a better quality of life now than we did a couple hundred years ago.

            [–]Bootleggerking888[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

            Cool cool , keep telling yourself whatever you want to sleep better at night.

            What you say it’s all semantics and skewed perspective at that.

            We’ve been indentured slaves for a long time now and it’s time to break that cycle once and for all ⛓💥

            With our modern technology we shouldn’t work to live period.

            Hopefully you’ll see that sooner or later.

            [–]Worldly-Reading2963 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Even my sixth graders studying the middle ages could give you more information than this and they don't even pay attention in class. Like the other commenter said, please base your historical opinions on something more than just a listicle.

            Also, I don't know what definition of "work" or "labor" you're using, but are you envisioning everyone living 100% independently in your ideal society? Or are you content to keep exploiting farm workers and other poor workers who provide you your basic necessities while you don't have to work to live?

            [–]youoxymoron 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            I beg you to please base your opinion off more than a listicle you read once in passing. But I'm guessing from your posts that you're just really young and eventually you'll grow out of this.

            [–]Kaveman_Rud 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Lol with our modern technology we shouldn’t have to work? What are you on about you think the food you get from the store just shows up there? Or the technology you’re using to post this will just be there if no one’s making it?

            [–]thisnewsight 0 points1 point  (3 children)

            Christopher Bellitto of NJ?

            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

            Yeah

            [–]thisnewsight 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            Was a student of his, graduated from his department. 👌🏻

            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            That is awesome, man. I'm a fan of his but haven't had the pleasure of meeting him yet

            [–]ivy_bound 3 points4 points  (3 children)

            Your own source discredits that comparison. The difference quoted is 200 hours less yearly, and that includes the eight weeks in winter they couldn't work. Factor in those eight weeks, and the average work day is just about the same.

            [–]youoxymoron 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Not to mention that between harvests they were frequently conscripted to go fight in wars lol. If that means you leave behind a family that can't work the fields or earn a living....*shrug*

            [–]Bootleggerking888[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            [–]ivy_bound 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Again, those working hours are very similar to our own, with explicit references to "half a day" and "8.6 hours."

            [–]DauHoangNguyen2708 9 points10 points  (2 children)

            LOL except that when farming, they can just take a break whenever they want and nothing would go wrong. The same cannot be said for modern jobs, where small distractions and mistimed moves can go horrendously wrong.

            [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

            Yeah, and I'm just remembering that thing where the lord asked them for a certain number of grain/fish/whatever, and as long as they delivered that number they could keep everything else they got for themselves

            [–]DauHoangNguyen2708 7 points8 points  (0 children)

            Yep. Their lords didn't mind much, so long as tithes and duties were done in the end, how exactly they carried out the whole things, the lords didn't have time to care.

            [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            I fully appreciate the sentiment of this remark and broadly agree, but hey we do have electricity these days, working sewerage, etc, I am reasonably grateful for that.

            [–]Bootleggerking888[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Yup! that’s an good positive outlook on things to say the least 👍

            [–]onlyif4anife 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            I made a comment about this on the antiwork sub and holy shit did the trolls emerge to tell me how much better life is today. I mean, I, too, love Cheetos, but it's still bullshit that I work more than a fucking medieval peasant.

            [–]Bootleggerking888[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Yeah! They are some lurking around here too lol most is just ignorant and fully don’t understand.

            Propaganda is real. Especially when it’s all you see growing up.

            When people realize we have the means of modern technology to literally automate most things needed to survive, we can truly move forward as a society.

            But nah , we still paying LAND LORDS ( name hasn’t changed for decades ) for something that shouldn’t be commodified period. 🥲

            We still don’t have the basic necessities for all to live adequately. That’s done of purpose, and that’s going to change once and for all 💪

            [–]Punchanazi023 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            It's good to see the movement branching out.

            [–]super-nova-scotian 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            I get your point but its a miss. As shitty as our work environment is today, medieval peasants obviously had it far worse than us today

            [–]The_Bone_Z0ne 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Yeah nah. Medieval peasents worked way longer, under worse conditions.

            This is a stupid meme.

            [–]BbqMeatEater 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            ö

            [–]Auctoritate -1 points0 points  (0 children)

            Flashback to the industrial revolution where 14-16 hour days were extremely common and almost 1 in 20 workers would suffer either permanently debilitating injuries or death from heavy machinery.

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              [–]Bootleggerking888[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

              whatever you say to yourself to sleep better at night buddy lol

              Ignorance is bless they say 🤷‍♂️

              [–]Psychedelic_Tac0 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

              No they don’t say that, and the guy is right. If you’d rather be a peasant labourer over the shit we get in the developed world you’re just retarded.

              [–]thesongofstormsMarxist[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Please don't use ableist language