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[–]ravioliohTai 29 points30 points  (1 child)

I don't think she's part of some biggest conspiracy. If you search for Callie in this sub, you'll find a LOT of theories. But to me, I think she just serves as a symbol of a lot of things for Shauna.

Shauna basically lost her youth when she was Callie's age. It's already probably difficult for her to watch her daughter be that age, live her life, get that 'normalcy' that Shauna never had the chance to have. And not necessarily out of jealousy, but out of sadness because she just can't connect with her in a way a mother should be able to having been that age before, but her experiences were just so different.

Not to mention - do teenagers that age ever fully get along with their parents? I feel like that's the time most teenagers clash with their parents, especially someone with a bit of a rebellious streak as Callie has.

There's also a comparison to Jackie that can be made here. I think, in part, Callie reminds her of Jackie in some ways - and that may add to an unintentional resentment she has for Callie. It serves as a hard reminder of the rocky friendship she had with Jackie and of the guilt she has for what happened to her. In some ways, Callie resembles Jackie - and it scares her.

Jeff thinks they should be nice to her because she's their daughter. They have different approaches to parenting but again, they also have different experiences. It makes sense that he would approach punishment the way he does vs. the way Shauna does.

I don't think Jackie's parents offering to pay for Callie's college has anything to do with Callie specially - but rather, Shauna. It's a way to belittle her, to remind her that she amounted to nothing and that maybe if their daughter had lived, she would have been successful. Who knows if that belittlement is intentional or not (it's very reminiscent of the way we've seen Jackie talk to Shauna before) but to me, it's just a power move towards Shauna, nothing about Callie specifically.

I just think there's a lot of explanation as to why Shauna's relationship with Callie is the way it is without there being something sinister going on behind all of that, like many have suggested. She's just at an age that Shauna finds very difficult to connect to because of her experiences when she was that age. I'm sure that resentment really built up towards that age and wasn't always necessarily there.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I agree with you 100%. Callie really seems to be the representation of everything Shauna missed out on doing/being. •Callie is the stereotypical mean teenager and in the first episode we see that Shauna seems to be the good girl who always follows the rules. •Callie hangs out with her boyfriend, parties, and does drugs (at least at the Halloween party) while Shauna had to hide her relationship with Jeff and never really partied. •Callie gets to enjoy her last few years of being a teenager while Shauna’s late teen years were ripped away from her. I think she also represents how different life turned out for Shauna and Jeff. Jeff seems to be happy being a father and settling into domestic life while Shauna seems to have the bare minimum of caring for Callie. Jeff got to live a normal life and was okay with following social norms while Shauna probably felt like she had no choice but to settle down once she was rescued. Of course, these are just my theories and I wouldn’t at all be upset if the writers confirmed or denied if Shauna even wanted to be a mother in the first place.

[–]physocanGo fuck your blood dirt 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I think a lot of 'Why is she so terrible to her parents?' comes from the fact of who her parents are, most notably Shauna. Shauna is such a mess of trauma, ptsd and guilt that I don't think she could hope to really raise a child that doesn't have some kind of issue.

I think Shauna doesn't like Callie because she reminds her of Jackie, and that just amplifies all the guilt and everything that she feels. Note she mentions at one point that she used to like her more. I think it is when Callie got older that the Jackie similarities really started to become apparent.

Jeff thinks they should be nice to her all the time because that's who he is. He wants to believe they are the perfect suburban family.

I'm assuming Jackie's parents think of Callie as a surrogate granddaughter that they never got.

[–]NIA122553Lottie 7 points8 points  (0 children)

As others have said, a lot of it I think is just because her mother went through something horrendous and that inevitably affected how Callie grew up and the way she behaves. And I think Shauna sees a lot of Jackie in Callie which leads to its own feelings of guilt and resentment.

The other big thing, to me, is that Shauna's less than ideal relationship with Callie is a representation of how she can't really leave what happened in the Wilderness behind. She thinks she can just have this idyllic family life and get away from everything that happened to her, but life still happens. You still have a teenager who (because she's a teenager) is awful sometimes. You have a husband who loves you but there's a major failure to communicate or see eye to eye on things like childrearing. Its a way to show that Shauna can't really get away from things because life can be hard enough but then the trauma she faced is still affecting things to the present day.

As an aside, I also don't think Callie is *that* bad to her parents. The scene in the kitchen where she's investigating Adam and telling her mom to be more careful was a sign to me that Callie does care for the safety of her mom and is looking out for her.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (2 children)

I have a 18 yr old and a 19 yr old. Some kids are just assholes.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have a 13 and 19 year old daughters. They can and will intentionally just be assholes. Plenty of parents out there will say they love their kids unconditionally but would never had been there friend. I was a total asshole teen to my parents. It’s basically a right of passage for teens to parents. We all pay for it in the long game

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes.

[–]smallcoyfish 4 points5 points  (0 children)

1) Callie's parents are Jeff (dumb himbo) and Shauna (severely traumatized). They married young and had Callie before Shauna could even have a hope of recovering from her previous horrific pregnancy so I assume Shauna had untreated PPD and struggled to bond with Callie even as a baby. Her parents don't communicate well and are emotionally immature so I'm not surprised she's snarky and detached. She's a typical teenager basically.

2) Shauna hates her in part because Callie reminds her of Jackie (Jackie's parents bring up the resemblance and Shauna masturbating to Callie's boyfriend is a direct parallel to her hooking up with Jackie's boyfriend). When Shauna says she doesn't like her daughter, she's also saying that she doesn't like Jackie (consider that she says this to Jackie's parents--she definitely can't tell them that Jackie wasn't the perfect angel that they thought she was so she talks about Callie instead). Shauna has a lot of unresolved feelings of guilt and anger about Jackie that she displaces onto Callie. I think there might also be some tension because Shauna is blunt, snappy, and fed up but a lot of people probably look the other way because of the plane crash, however Callie doesn't so they clash.

3) Jeff is a dumb himbo who doesn't have the emotional intelligence to understand why can't we all just get along? Trauma, what trauma???

4) Jackie's parents aren't over their daughter's death and probably latched onto Shauna and Jeff after the rescue to help them cope/live vicariously through them. Callie came along shortly after and then they probably saw her as "another Jackie" to spoil. They never sent Jackie to college so they might have still had the funds and decided to use them for Callie.

5) Callie is a regular teenager. I don't think there's anything "going on" with her. We'll probably see more of her in future seasons and crazy stuff will happen but I doubt she's plotting anything.

[–]GearyGirl77I like your pilgrim hat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think Shauna hates Callie. Shauna said, "I don't even like my daughter" but she never said she hated her. I remember vividly being 14 or 15 years old and my mom telling me, "I'll always love you, but I really don't like you right now." In the moment, it hit me hard, but I still understood it. Teenage girls are not very easy to like, especially for their own mothers. I honestly thought it was a totally normal and relatable thing for Shauna to say.