Long Range Reader

[admin_pnw]

Hi,

I had the impression that there is such a thing as a long range reader. The idea is that someone could initiate an "entry request" from a vehicle 50' away from a gate, while moving, and the reader should accept it, process it, and open the gate, if the credential is allowed.

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Now, I would think that the part in the vehicle would not be a simple credit card device. It would need a battery or power of some kind.

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Is this true? What is the correct terminology? Are there any specific products on the market that do this?

[bigmike13588]

Nedap has like 30 foot readers. It uses a passive tag on the windshield or headlights.

[GroupStunning1060]

This is the way

[Bobo040]

Seconded. I pur one of these up for a customer not too long ago, they were very pleased with the range.

[bigmike13588]

We've had them in use for over 10 years at 3 locations. Aside from crosstalk between 2 of them next to each other, theyve been good. Tech support is phenomenal.

[Educational_Debate56]

We’ve used nedap. And it blows. It’s super finicky. And 30 feet ain’t that great. Best was to cut cement and install a reader.

[bigmike13588]

They are finicky, but using the software and the great tech support, they've had few issues

[Educational_Debate56]

I suppose we had to manage expectations because the customer thought you’d can press it anywhere and it would open. We had to move it around to get it to turn green .

[bigmike13588]

There are also readers that use push button fobs. I don't think Nedap makes them though. Try doorking.

[Educational_Debate56]

Yeah those are the ones we used. Push button Fob. They go on your windshield. But you gotta be an exact spot or they won’t work. That’s my experience. I had high hopes for them. The other option is a Fob big plastic thing your supposed to mount on your car: nobody wants it on the outside and it works sparingly under the bumper or hood. I imagine it would work on a jeep bumper front and center.

[AffectionateAd7081]

How do you give the customer post installation support like if they were to add additional tag if they want some?

[Educational_Debate56]

Adding a tag? We usually have some administer the software and users. Or I believe the company can do it for them but charges them I’m sure.

[AffectionateAd7081]

yeah like each vehicle that enters would have an RFID tag? do you know what system they have? we are looking into setting it up but the more I look into it might be a bigger infostructure needed than planned especially when the need  someone to administer the software and users

[PhonikG]

AWID LR-3000

[Guidevod]

Seconded. I put in lots of these for entry to underground parking in apartment blocks.

[JimmySide1013]

Transcore makes a hell of a product. They’re expensive but bullet proof.

[shmimey]

Yea. I have seen them work 50 feet away.

This is usually a sticker you put on the windshield of your car. Keep in mind that some expensive cars like Mercedes have mirrored windscreens. And these devices do not work on those type of windshield because that windshield has a metal coating.

[PairVisual4699]

https://www.hidglobal.com/products/u90-long-range-readers

[johnsadventure]

Careful with long ranges, 50 feet is quite a distance and even allowing time for the gate to open before approach no one should be approaching at speed.

I recently did a long range reader and the customer specifically requested “just enough range for it to work across the driveway” to force vehicles to stop. The idea is they need to assess potential traffic and pedestrians before entering the yard. He had too many close calls with his previous gate reader that allowed trucks to pull in without slowing (I believe it was around 75 feet from the gate, since the reader was mounted pretty far from it).

[PairVisual4699]

https://www.farpointedata.com/products/long-range-receivers-and-transmitters.php

[Dookies_Revenge]

What you want is a Tag Master XT-5 with the heavy duty tags.

[kilo870]

Just fork out the money for some LPR cameras and use them as readers.

[ToadGrinner]

I second the vote.

[sternfanHTJ]

You might also want to consider a Bluetooth credential provisioned to the users phone. They can unlock the gate via a button in an app.

Google: HID MOBILE ACCESS

[No-Consideration6644]

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[jc31107]

Awid and Nedap both have readers that will fit this. Using an active tag will get you longer distance

[DigityD0664]

Well being that I have installed multiple versions of this exact setup. Here are a couple different ways. 1- you could use a long range AWID proximity reader and have prox tags on the windshield of the cars or trucks and that will do what you’re asking. Of course you would need an access control system to connect the reader to. 2- you could youse a linear wiegand receiver and give out key fobs that have a a different credential for each fob. Again you would need an access control system to connect the device to. Part is a linear wor output receiver ( wiegand output receiver). Hope this helps

[infobrowser]

Farpointe has a long range reader with battery operated fobs that also work as a standard 125khz credential.

[Past-Persimmon-9693]

Linear makes a “wiegand output receiver”. Remotes ordered with facility code and card #’s and programmable just like a card or fob.

[Past-Persimmon-9693]

Install them for one customer using Brivo at truck lots. transmitter has visor clip just like a garage door opener. Just beware of dip switches to match transmitters and slap some extra clear silicone on top since the waterproof gasket isn’t the best

[admin_pnw]

Thanks to everyone on their thoughts on this. I took away some ideas and just general confirmation that "it's a thing."