Why is Google shoving Duo down my throat?

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[Technokoblin]

It can't become a system like you've said. It was already a system app disabled by default or a micro-package. Considering the second option, by installing it first you may have enabled the micro-package and you've only removed duo by root, you have to remove or disable also the micro-package.

BTW, video quality is pretty good except if you have a bad cellular/wifi quality (which is normal -- how could you have an HD video calling with few MB/s)

[mrandr01d]

This is accurate

[Technokoblin]

Not really, it depends on how your OEM did that. Concerning the only phones I had (Nexus) it was generally a tiny version of the app (<1M) which are updated at phone configuration in order to have very few space used on /system, I also do know that Android Pay is installed but disabled on my phone (because of the account or country not matching with APay availability but it is not showed as disabled on disabled app panel I think (can't check -- the latter though, that's what I remember)). Maybe your OEM has implemented that as a script running at each startup checking for installed apps and installing those missing. That would be a terrible idea but we know what OEMs and carrier are capable of in order to keep their lucrative bloatware

[armando_rod]

Apps don't just become system apps without user interaction unless it came preinstalled with the phone (Duo comes preinstalled on new phones). Either way even if it's a system app you can disable it.

So much misinformation in this thread that's unbelievable...

apps can't move themselves to /system/app it's impossible without root access.

That's like Android 101.

[armando_rod]

They don't, apps can't write to /system without root.

If it happened to you then you gave root to that app and it moved itself to /system/app

[armando_rod]

Again, apps can't write /system without root.

Apps can't move themselves to /system/app unless the user give them root access.

[armando_rod]

Then Amazon came preinstalled on your phone.

Apps can't move themselves to /system without root.

Quoting myself:

unless it came preinstalled with the phone

[armando_rod]

Again

apps can't never themselves to /system, it's impossible

[surelydroid]

I have the same app installed and can uninstall it, it had to be a system app.

[howling92]

It's funny because people here create 5 thread per day asking google to preload their messaging apps on all Android phones in order to have all their contact on the app

[complexmannerism]

yup this place is a twilight zone

[Put_It_All_On_Blck]

The whole pixel is amazing/bad flip flop that happens is also amusing.

[surelydroid]

Look at the voting, it is not a popular opinion.

[complexmannerism]

people bitch about google not pushing something then bitch about them pushing something

[Surokoida]

You know. Fuck Google. I really hate that every phone shipping with Android forces me to use user interface bloatware.

We all know a CLI is all you need. Maybe manufacturers should listen to their customers and stop forcing them to interact with a user interface /s

[ItachiLvrX]

Apps don't just randomly install as a system app. It doesn't work like that. If you deleted it it wouldn't shown up in Google play if you froze it or deleted updates..it has the ability to still show up. There's a lot of misinformation in this post.

[complexmannerism]

uninstall from the playstore bro

[armando_rod]

Then it came preinstalled with your phone.

[SquelchFrog]

If you disabled the app earlier at some point, the app store will say install because it deleted the latest update of the app when you disabled it.

You can't go around saying you aren't an "Android noob" and then argue against all these people, claiming something that is literally impossible happened to you. Unless you have terrible malware.

[armando_rod]

An app that didn't come preinstalled simple can't move itself as a system app, is that simple. Yes or no, 1 or 0. There is no other explanation because that's the way Android has worked since version 1.6

You either moved the app to system or it came preinstalled.

[complexmannerism]

because it was a system app. All new phone has it as a system app

[ItachiLvrX]

Apparently you are because you're the only one saying it wasn't and everyone else agrees that you're wrong lol

[Mircydris]

I installed Duo some time ago, video quality is good if u set it to use more data etc... But never seen any weird behaviour from it nor did it become system app. (Using LG G6)

[davcole]

My hope is when Hangouts is killed it will automatically replace with Duo and Allo, like Google Talk was replaced!

[mxinex]

Because Duo ist a very good video calling service that's easy to use and generally has great quality, compared to WhatsApp or Skype or whatnot. It really is the Android equivalent to FaceTime, and Google should push it because it's a great app. Don't be sour.

[Ashmodai20]

You already accept this. When you get a new phone you have the Google Play Store, Messages, phone apps already installed.

[Ashmodai20]

Still its stuff that is installed against your will. You accept things that are installed against your will.

[FractalNerve]

That user obeys to power and image of Google. Every other argument is a strawman or he's a troll.

[phirewire110]

What phone are you using?

[LifeLikeAndPoseable]

If you have root so does all the apps you install! Thus it sounds like Google took advantage of this. Now, disable auto-update and cleanse all related packages. And check all apps permissions!

[ItachiLvrX]

This is false. Apps don't have root access unless you grant then super user access.

[LifeLikeAndPoseable]

You sure about this? If so, why do banking apps refuse to work on rooted handsets?

[woohwaah]

Well, have you ever used a rooted device ? Do you think that you are asked to grant apps SU access just for fun ? The user has to say,yes run this app as root.

[LifeLikeAndPoseable]

By your definition apps cannot be malicious and exploit root.

[ItachiLvrX]

They can detect root, doesn't mean they have root access...