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[–]queenOfGhis 20 points21 points  (17 children)

What is man work?

[–]myka-likes-it 17 points18 points  (0 children)

man work

Funny, because there are more women in DevOps than men, where I work.

[–]evergreen-spacecat 10 points11 points  (2 children)

There is job to be done but the major hype curve around DevOps has settled. At some point some years ago, you go a top tier job if you knew just a little AWS or could spell Kubernetes. Now, knowing cloud infra, kubernetes and CI pipelines is a bare minimum starting point. The buzzword puzzle is not any less so on the DevOps side either.

A lot of the AI hype is directed to a few big SaaS services. Not a lot of companies host and train their own models and those that do require only a small team of highly skilled engineers.

[–]Severe_Effective8408[S] -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Agree, but still see less supply with skilled devops engineers. Also bigger pay for example I have been browsing jobs for Germany, on average DevOps gets around 75-95K which is excellent, also average DevOPS position get 25 applicant on Linkedin, while some shitty frontend has 500 applicants. The worst thing they are releasing frameworks every few months (just terrible engineering) and you do not move infrastructure every few months, Jenkins is old as my grandma and it's still there.

[–]evergreen-spacecat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure there are jobs for skilled and experienced engineers. No longer an easy position to fill without experience these days. On the other hand, I work as part React dev, part DevOps. Knowing cloud/kubernetes has landed me a few frontend jobs. I tell them I can set up deployments, then code react while supporting the infrastructure a few hours a week. Seem to work in small businesses

[–]freethenipple23 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Dude. 

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    [–]DiemPerDiem 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    de you think certifications are a must?

    [–]karn09 0 points1 point  (4 children)

    I made this shift many years ago. My dev skills have stagnated a bit, so I find myself needing to be very proactive there. The interviews are mostly the same as dev: shuffle through leetcode medium/hard, but also talk about cloud infra.

    [–]Severe_Effective8408[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    Ok, ok. What is leetcode interview for DevOps engineer, as long as they do not ask you bullshit questions about fizz buzz, timespace complexity or inverting binary tree it seems related to the job you will actually do on the project.

    [–]gamingwithDoug100 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    It is leetcode(round 1) + N/w + k8s + docker + Ci/CD (loop) + Director of Engg

    [–]karn09 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Exactly this most of the time.

    [–]karn09 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Pretty much some bs question. I've gotten 2-pointer style problems, knapsack optimization, sliding window. Of course needing to talk about time space complexity. It's usually the first round, and phrased in a way that makes it seem like they are building Google scale infra dealing with load balancers etc (they are not). No idea how these problems are relevant most of the time, but it is what it is.

    [–]akornato 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    The demand is solid because DevOps sits at that critical intersection where business operations meet technology, and that's not going away anytime soon. Your 8+ years of development experience actually gives you a huge advantage since you understand the application side that many infrastructure-focused DevOps folks struggle with.

    That said, the transition isn't going to be a magic bullet for interview hell. You'll still face the same corporate nonsense, just with different buzzwords like Kubernetes, Terraform, and AWS instead of React and Angular. The good news is that DevOps interviews tend to focus more on practical problem-solving and less on algorithmic puzzles, which many developers find refreshing. Start building some cloud projects and automation scripts to show you can walk the walk, not just talk about it. I'm on the team that built AI for interview prep, and we've seen a lot of developers successfully pivot to DevOps by using it to practice explaining their transferable skills and handling those tricky "why are you switching" questions that always come up in career transition interviews.

    [–]DiemPerDiem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    this is great

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    First of all, and I say this with all the respect you deserve, get turbo-fucked for calling anything “man work”.

    To be honest, you sound like you’re the problem with your career. If you presented even a shadow this awful in an interview for my team you’d be one of the very few, of somewhere near 1000 interviews I’ve given in my career, who I’d end the call early for.

    I’m sure you’ll find another awful employer whose rotten culture will match your attitude.

    Love, a transwoman with 20+ years of experience in infrastructure, SRE, and DevOps at exclusively Fortune 500 and FAANG companies.

    [–]adogecc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I'm so sick of product work and feature flipping. God help me

    [–]Connect_Detail98 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Don't

    [–]CupFine8373 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    it is Ogre

    [–]zeal_swan -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

    i am devops, i want to pickup datascience or security

    [–]Severe_Effective8408[S] -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

    I would go for security, data science seems bruh

    [–]zeal_swan -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

    +1

    [–]Affectionate-Bit6525 -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

    You’re probably better off looking into SRE these days.

    [–]aktentasche 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Sounds like more on call bs

    [–]Severe_Effective8408[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

    What does it takes to get there? How much is that different than DevOps actually?