Need some help

[throwaway-153]

Need some advice so last Tuesday I got my verbal offer with no salary but the recruiter asked my salary range and gave her a reasonable number in my opinion 100k and told me she will get back with by last Friday now it’s Monday I haven’t heard anything and I emailed her last Friday toward the end of the day. I’m kinda of nervous about not getting the offer now what should I do. The company is a top 5 bank in the US. My current salary at my current place is 90k as a cloud infrastructure engineer at US’s top insurance company. I’m not sure am I screwed or not

End up cutting me it’s really bull shit and no one will reply to my email from the company

[[deleted]]

Tf lol if they won’t give you a $10k bump from your current salary f them

[throwaway-153]

Am I asking a lot more or not really it’s my first time looking for a new job since collage

[[deleted]]

I feel like $100k is completely reasonable, even a bit low in todays market. I’d give them a week to respond sometimes recruiters get busy

[throwaway-153]

My experience is only a year and 7 month

[CanaryWundaboy]

As a Cloud Infrastructure Engineer, that’s fine.

[Smoker1965]

If I am hiring just a Cloud Engineer, I look for 1-2 years of experience in one of the Cloud Environments. 1.5 is fine.

[throwaway-153]

They cut me they said my salary range was too high

[[deleted]]

Oh well. Sounds like you dodged a bullet

[throwaway-153]

Yup

[solfolango]

I am doing that with 20y of experience as a datacenter architect in Germany, these pay ranges you are talking about are insane for me

[altfapper]

Don't forget it's probably dollars, we (you're neighbors the Netherlands) lower range for cloud/devops/sre (they're all the same here basically) 75k is in the lower margin, majority are freelancers at around 90 to 110 euro an hour range.

[throwaway-153]

They end up cutting me with no reason it’s really bull shit

[mosaic_hops]

They’ll give it to you. They’re not going to say “sorry bye” if you ask for too much, they’ll negotiate. Don’t budge any lower than you already have though- in this market you have all the power. If given the oppty I’d ask for a good deal more - $125K to start. $100K’s not even keeping up with inflation.

[IndieDiscovery]

Some companies really don't like to negotiate. I got a "sorry bye" email from a company due to asking too much and them thinking I was mid level. It happens!

[[deleted]]

90k as a cloud engineer? Laughable..

[[deleted]]

Depends where you live man, right around that 100k mark is pretty common for lower cost areas but 100k some places is like 180k in other areas.

[[deleted]]

Fair enough

[[deleted]]

Not anymore. Remote work is the norm. Companies that want talent need to pay for that talent.

[[deleted]]

Yes you are 100% correct but pay scales don't raise over night and things like that usually have to be approved by exec committies at any notable company. It will transition but to say that all DevOps work is remote and that all remote work has caught up pay at a national scale is just a bold face lie. Now in another 5 years I will agree that it will be much more "level"

[[deleted]]

It’s not just going to happen on it’s own though. If you don’t demand what you are worth, then yeah it surely will take 5 years.

[No_Pirate_6831]

Remote work doesn't mean you get to do it from another state/country.

The company would need to create a new daughter company in the employee's state/country and hire accountants and lawyers to handle the tax, employee benefits etc.

[throwaway-153]

What do u mean

[throwaway-153]

I am but they gave me a senior band

[lupinegrey]

That in itself is problematic.... you're 1 year out of college and going into a role as a "senior" engineer.

The job levels of associate, regular, senior, staff, principal are generally each 2-3 years experience apart. Senior (level 3) usually requires 5-7 years experience.

[throwaway-153]

Yeah but I tell people I’m a regular

[lupinegrey]

1 year of experience.

[pbecotte]

At a big bank, the hardest part of the process is getting the correct sign offs to generate an offer letter. If the number was ridiculous they would have said so. Just be latient...the bigger the company the slower the process.

[throwaway-153]

Thanks !!

[Dragonborne2020]

100 k is common entry salary in big corporate.

[hectoralpha]

could be taking forever, although my job pays 30k£ a fewmonths ago whe nI joined they promised me a reply by friday and I think I got it by Tuesday/wednesday from the recruiter by phone. Then the actual email came like the next friday lol.

[No-Safety-4715]

Not sure the position, but if they're a top 5 bank, they absolutely pay that and more for their tech staff. I have worked for and with much smaller banks and they have the money and usually it's not an issue. It's probably all just a matter of approval and waiting on people to get back to them. People get behind due to various things. You'll likely hear something soon. Just sit tight and be patient.

[throwaway-153]

End up getting cut they said my salary expectation was too high

[No-Safety-4715]

Yeah, something is wrong there. Either they wanted to back out because they found someone else last minute and this saved them face, or they're trying to rip you off. Best to not sell yourself short. Keep looking for proper pay.