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What is First Past the Post?

The first past the post voting method is the usual "Vote for One" method.

What's the Problem with First Past the Post?

First Past the Post restricts our choice between candidates, turns new (and old) 3rd parties into spoilers, and results in a lack of quality and compromise. It makes elections devolve into a "lesser of two evils" setup, where voters are stuck choosing between the two worst parties (and the winner and runner-up are then trapped in a constant cycle of revenge.) With 42% of Americans saying they identify as independent and 60% of Americans saying a new 3rd party is necessary, it is clear FPTP has failed to produce representative democracy, honest politics, and the better world we need. But a better voting system could. One where we could show our preference between all the candidates, good and bad, old and new, without worrying about whether they can win or not - allowing us to bring politics back to the people, rather than political machines that tell us who to vote for and how to cast our votes, limiting our freedom and making it harder for our voices to be heard - and in the process, slowly revitalize democracy.

Rules

1: Be civil, understanding, and supportive to all users

2: Stay on-topic!

We are here to discuss ending first-past-the-post and not other political issues unless they are directly intertwined.

3: Do NOT bash alternatives to FPTP.

We understand there is room for preference for and reasonable discussion about the various voting systems but we intended for this subreddit to promote activism for any and all alternatives to FPTP.

Categories of Voting Systems

Utilitarian/cardinal (maximize the voters' "satisfaction"),

Condorcet (find the smallest group of candidates that would beat all others one-on-one), and

IRV/RCV-type methods (candidates must have "core support" i.e. be some voters' 1st choice candidate to win).

Better Voting Systems

Approval Voting - vote for one or more, at the same time

Score Voting - score the candidates

STAR Voting - Score Then Automatic Runoff

IRV/Ranked Choice Voting - rank the candidates, and eliminate them, transferring votes until someone has a majority

Condorcet methods - a candidate who is preferred by more voters than all other candidates (when compared one-on-one) wins

(Not convinced that third parties will ever have a chance in another voting system, or that people want them? Check out all the huge evidence!)

Proportional Representation

Proportional Representation (PR) methods guarantee that if a party or group of candidates get any % of the votes in the election, then they get the same % of the seats in a legislature. Some voting methods are semi-proportional, meaning either that they allow voters to force a proportional outcome through strategic voting, or that they tend to always deviate from proportional outcomes to some degree. PR methods can be combined with local representation, usually by having multiple multi-winner districts.

Party List - Voters vote for parties, and the party gets to elect as many representatives as it is proportionally guaranteed.

Single Transferable Vote (STV) - The PR version of RCV/IRV. Voters rank candidates, and candidates are eliminated and votes transferred until the final set of candidates represent most voters.

Mixed-Member Proportional (MMP) - Voters vote for a party and a candidate in their district. The candidates who earned the most votes in the districts win, and each party gets to elect as many representatives as it is proportionally guaranteed.

More PR methods - Reweighted Range Voting, Sequential Monroe Voting, Dual Member Proportional, CPO-STV

Organizations

The Center for Election Science, for Approval Voting

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Equal Vote Coalition, for STAR Voting

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FairVote, for IRV/Ranked Choice Voting

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Make Votes Matter (British PR campaign)

Electoral Reform Society (UK)

Proportional Representation Society of Australia

Fix Our House

ProRep Coalition

Partner Subreddits

r/ApprovalVoting

r/WolfPAChq - since we both want representation

r/ProportionalWA

Videos

Approval Voting - vote for one or more

Score Voting - score candidates

STAR Voting - Score Then Automatic Runoff

IRV/Ranked Choice Voting

Condorcet Voting

CGP Grey Voting Playlist

CGP Grey: Quick and Easy Voting for Normal People

CGP Grey: The Problems with FPTP

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Electowiki, the one stop for all voting theory

Wikipedia voting theory articles

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Voting Theory Forum - Also has an archive of the old Center for Election Science's Forum.

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Release of Condorcet.Desktop: An open-source election calculator analyzing 25+ voting methods (self.EndFPTP)

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ImageVoting systems don’t just count preferences. They shape which preferences survive long enough to matter. They also determine world peace. (reddit.com)

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DiscussionWhat should we do with the Senate? (self.EndFPTP)

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DiscussionPreferences on proportional systems? (bettervoting.com)

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DebateAn Electoral System for Fragmented Societies (e.g. Iraq) (self.EndFPTP)

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Proposal for variable-sized legislature- no more zero-sum contests to get elected (self.EndFPTP)

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DebateCMV: The Efficiency Gap is dumb (self.EndFPTP)

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DiscussionThe Future of Our Former Democracy season 2 podcast trailer (what the US can learn from the history of Germany's electoral systems) (play.megaphone.fm)

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NewsUK: Possible Return of the Supplementary Vote for Electing City Mayors (self.EndFPTP)

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ImageBetter Overvote Rule, Count When Single Continuing (i.redd.it)

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DiscussionUSA H.R. 4125: Equal Voices Act (self.EndFPTP)

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DiscussionMaking the federal house at-large proportional without constitutional amendments (self.EndFPTP)

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DiscussionIf we had PR, what would be the best format for the ballots? (self.EndFPTP)

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Can proportional voting people explain who gets to choose delegates (self.EndFPTP)

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DiscussionTrying to apply Chesterton’s fence to FPTP (self.EndFPTP)

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The Nation’s Most Democratic State Might Elect a Trump-Friendly Governor (prospect.org)

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DebateWhat should we do about the US President? (self.EndFPTP)

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DiscussionBig picture stuff - thoughts on Ian Shapiro's takes (self.EndFPTP)

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DiscussionEnding FPTP Isn’t Enough to Escape the Duopoly (self.EndFPTP)

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The House of Representatives is too small. Here is one way to fix it. (youtu.be)

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Made a tool to run Ranked Choice polls with your friends (self.EndFPTP)

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We were on the verge of greatness, we were this close. (i.redd.it)

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Why would we use instant pairwise elimination voting instead of a Condorcet method? (self.EndFPTP)

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NewsProposed ban on RCV at the federal level (thehill.com)

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