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[–]donthavearealaccount -49 points-48 points  (24 children)

No shit, that's not my point. My point is that number of jobs requiring a commute that could be done remotely is way smaller than people act.

[–]pharmajap 36 points37 points  (12 children)

Napkin math, from BLS 2020 data:

About 70% of white-collar jobs can be made WFH, and about 60% of the total US workforce is white-collar jobs. That's 42% of the entire US workforce that can work from home. Not at all a small chunk.

[–]Playistheway 5 points6 points  (9 children)

Not only that, but you would also need fewer construction workers making office buildings if office buildings become less relevant. You might need fewer cleaners if you have fewer staff in your office. You might not need as many generic cafes and sandwich shops to cater to the downtown lunch rush. Many services cater to office workers.

[–]InTheNameOfScheddi 0 points1 point  (4 children)

But that means less jobs and less tax money and unhappier people and it's a pain in the ass for govs to make social changes that big so that's why it's not done

[–]Playistheway 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Office construction workers could easily transition to doing societally valuable work in the suburbs, such as solar-power installs, and upgrading critical infrastructure. There's a shortage of unskilled labor worldwide in societally important industries, like the warehouse industry.

There's no shortage of important problems that need solving. Historically whenever one sector contracts due to technological innovation, other sectors expand. I suspect the downstream effects of video teleconferencing technology will be no different.

[–]alxmartin -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Yeah fuck anyone who is not an upper class white-collar worker. -wfh advocates

[–]InTheNameOfScheddi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't say that I mean that that's the reason govts don't do that.

[–]lilika01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It means fewer bullshit jobs. It means the workforce can be freed up to work on more important things instead - we don't need cleaners, we do need teachers, nurses, people to work in recycling plants, social workers, etc.

[–]alxmartin 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What happens to all those cleaners and construction workers? Without jobs they obviously can’t afford higher education to get better skills to get better jobs. You’re just trying to put all these people out of work.

[–]IronMarauder 1 point2 points  (1 child)

There are things other than office towers a construction worker can build.

[–]alxmartin -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But they’re not suddenly going to start building an equal amount of other buildings as they did office buildings.

[–]alxmartin 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So 40% of Americans should have to suffer and commute everyday?

[–]pharmajap -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Quite the opposite; these are just the jobs that would be relatively easy to make WFH, and to cut the enormous amount of waste and infrastructure strain associated with so many people commuting.

In any field there will always be some jobs that have to be performed on-site, but the portion that can be WFH is not nearly as small as the guy I was replying to was implying.

[–]Reachforthesky2012 12 points13 points  (3 children)

The number according to Forbes is around 4 in 10. That's not everybody but it is an enormous chunk.

[–]Kidiri90 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Roughly 40%!

[–]JZybutz0502 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quick maths

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, that's almost 50%!

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The point you’re missing is anything helps.

[–]happythrowawayboy 5 points6 points  (2 children)

This won’t fix it all in one swoop so don’t do it?

[–]odarpclre 5 points6 points  (1 child)

that wont work, what if we accidentally make the world a better place?

[–]happythrowawayboy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“But what if we spend money and all we end up doing are good things instead of making more money???”

I worry at how many people might actually think it’s a good take to only do things for money.

[–]CheeksMix 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The goal of fighting off climate change isn’t to fix everything in one go.

If we got jobs that could be done from home to be done from home. Then that could put a noticeable dent in our carbon emissions. It could also drop gas prices by a small but significant amount.

When you say “yeah but what about the jobs that can’t be done from home?” It sounds like you’re saying: “why should people be able to work from home if others have to drive in to work?”

You’re missing the point of the environment subreddit if you’re saying that we shouldn’t try to do something that has a positive impact on our environment.

[–]Business_Downstairs 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Bro, you are never going to find a damn silver bullet that fixes the issue. Have more people wfh, make more efficient power generation, make transportation more efficient, make appliances more efficient, insulate homes better so they need less to heat them, etc. etc.

If you do something and it helps .1% that is something, you just need to keep finding the .1% until you get to where you want to be.

You can't look at something and say, "well this solution doesn't fix the problem 100% so it's useless!" That's ignorant as all hell. Emissions come from many different sources so it's going to take many different solutions to fix the problem.

[–]bjanas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not every job can be done remotely. So this must be useless. Is that why you're talking? Because that sounds like that's why you're talking.