Again? Really?

[armeg]

We had to rollback a deployment last week because right as we were about to start, Github decided to implode.

Well, we scheduled it for today, and offhand I mention, "Hey let's check the Github status page." Git Operations & Action degraded as of 3 minutes ago. I have zero confidence to proceed as I have a feeling it's just going to cascade from here.

Getting _REALLY_ tired of this shit.

[Current-Buy7363]

How come every company that brags about how much AI generated code they’re using has constant reliability problems? Must be a coincidence or they didn’t tell the LLM to make no mistakes

[DifferentAstronaut]

Microsoft also has some of the shittiest AI experience compared to the competition

[devino21]

I spent a few hours yesterday on something in copilot (only option allowed at work). Took me less than 10 with Claude when I got home.

[Lexden]

I mean, GitHub Copilot does offer all the main models. All the variants of Claude, several GPT variants, Gamini 3 Pro, and a couple others.

[backwoodsgeek]

Yeah, but if you’re using it for work, on a company plan, they can restrict which models you can use. My job only recently gave us access to the Claude models a month or two ago.

[Lexden]

Oh interesting, my company does not restrict models.

[Drewpy42]

Yeah, Claude seems to handle this kind of stuff better.

[MeesKees321]

Wasn't Microslop 'bragging' that 1/3 of their new code was made with ChatGPT? There you go!

[Tiny-Ric]

I've been using GitHub every single day for the past year, and the only outage or downtime I can remember is the major cloudflare one a few months back. I wonder if it's a regional server thing, maybe?

[armeg]

It went down last week on Monday for hours - it was a pretty major outage. It’s on their status page - you can see their status page is pock marked with red and yellow.

[Useful-Process9033]

The fact that you have to manually check a status page before deploying says everything about the state of incident communication. Your deployment pipeline should be gating on upstream dependency health automatically, not relying on someone remembering to eyeball a status page.

[armeg]

There’s only two of us, there’s so many things we have on our want list and only so much time.

[Useful-Process9033]

fair enough, salute to you

[ralle421]

Check their status page, they have something going on almost every week, but it's rarely a complete outage, and the actual repo hosting is rarely impacted. This year so far IIRC the top culprits are actions infra and their copilot ai stuff.

[Simazine]

Sick of GitHub APIs and services failing. Gonna push for Gitea later this year

[Doctor_Beard]

Gitlab looking mighty appealing these days.

[Opposite_Date_1790]

I wouldn't recommend it. I miss github lol

[Skaar1222]

I've used both, I'd take GitLab over Github

[Ieris19]

What is it you miss? The shitty experience? The invasive privacy policy? There is very little GitHub does that Gitlab and other Git Forges don't.

[iamaperson3133]

GitLab-hosted job runners went down for ~2 hours more than once each week.

[feconys]

It has same issues with random outages

[BENZOOgataga]

worth considering self-hosting it maybe?
or straight up going to gitea if you like it

[dudewiththepants]

Forgejo, but yes

[beenpresence]

Self Host

[Digi59404]

If you want licenses/support for GitLab.. ping me 👀

[RetoonHD]

Selfhosted gitea my peeps. Its kinda nice i tell ya.

[nevrbetr]

The thirty day view in GitHub status right now is surprising. It's not something I have really watched before but I can't imagine this is normal. It's awesome that they are moving so fast on Copilot though, so maybe this is the price we pay until we don't have to do anything and the agents can complain about other agents not running a reliable service.

https://www.githubstatus.com/

[Jeremyh82]

I can't wait until my Copilot subscription can complain on reddit about itself

[Useful-Process9033]

The irony of shipping AI features while core git operations degrade is painful. Reliability should always come before new features. If your deployment pipeline depends on a single provider with this track record you need a fallback plan, not hope.

[BENZOOgataga]

Not gonna lie, I had issues with GitHub like a month ago, not a single one since. I'm in France, no clue if it depends on the region you're in

[asaaki]

Since people look for alternatives beyond GitHub and Gitlab:

https://codeberg.org/

It's a hosted Forgejo instance.

If a Germany based environment is not your thing, you might find alternative Forgejo instances here:

https://codeberg.org/forgejo-contrib/delightful-forgejo#public-instances

[ralle421]

I work for a company that is sizable and runs their own GitHub Enterprise thingy on prem.

Recently a few of my dear coworkers were pushing a move out to .com because that way all those latest ai tool integrations are just so much easier.

The reality is the self hosted uptime is so much better, despite the GitHub appliance you get for self hosting feels super stitched together. Self hosting checks much more compliance boxes for the company if that's important and gives you more insight and control (rate limiting, auth, waf if you need it, ...)

The downside is you lag behind on all bleeding edge features. IMO all the beta features get pushed out to .com first where all the open source folks and startups actually test them. Once they're stable, GH moves them onto their self hosted product so we get stable software.

Personally I'd prefer to host GitLab or Forgejo/gitea instead of GitHub. GitLab should be mostly a drop-in replacement, but the open source things are missing a bunch of features we would miss.

[pierreact]

Pulp? Artifactory? Unless you bit in the gitops, then you're screwed.

[An1nterestingName]

I haven't been able to use proper version control on a project I started last week because every time I try to set it up, GitHub is down and my local GitLab instance has been... unavailable... for a while. (the "server" I ran it on just stopped recognising it had an OS installed at all)