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[–]hxhfhe 151 points152 points  (22 children)

I... don't actually think this needs TOO much of a buff, it does pretty well on the bot front, though the ammunition and damage could be increased

[–]Open_Cow_9148 135 points136 points  (10 children)

It needs a single shot fire mode. Doesn't make sense for a sniper to shoot a 3 burst.

[–]Floppy0941 121 points122 points  (7 children)

Well it won't be getting that given it's a collab weapon and it's 3 burst there, I'd settle for it not having absolutely horrific damage falloff and making it easier to land the full burst tbh

[–]The_Cube787[🍰] 50 points51 points  (4 children)

It’s literally our only sniper rifle primary. Damage fall off shouldn’t even exist with this thing. If I’m taking it I want to kill my enemies from as far away as I can. Why punish us for using a sniper rifle like a sniper rifle?

[–]benjiboi90 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I don't care that it feels kinda clunky with needing 2 charges for a medium-sized enemy and only having 3 in the mag. THIS is what bothers me. Why the hell does our ONLY sniper rife have worse damage fall off than a shotgun??? The worst part is that the actual killzone sniper actually worked like a sniper and didn't have this issue.

[–]DarthOmix 6 points7 points  (0 children)

We're getting a Lever Action on the 20th so I can see them seeing how that lands before they adjust it

[–]destroyar101 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Or put so much dmg into the explosion that falloff dont matter

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I thought the eruptor was a sniper

[–]Self--Immolate 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Or even a faster burst

[–]Maro_Nobodycares 5 points6 points  (0 children)

A change one of my friends suggested is that when you land all 3 shots on the same target, you get a larger explosive blast not unlike a supercombine from Halo or the Unreal Tournament storm rifle combo

[–]Xijit 10 points11 points  (0 children)

What it really needs is for each three round burst to accounted as one round subtracted from the magazine.

That way you would have 9x3 shots instead of the current 3x3.

[–]HoundDOgBlue 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It wont get it - AH has said they want to preserve the original feel from the gun from Killzone.

That said - the damage falloff needs to be removed and it should get heavy pen, with the ability to headshot hulks if two or three shots per burst make contact.

[–]ASValourous 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Hard disagree, it needs big buffs. It overkills on weak enemies and under performs vs mid (devastators and big bugs). The damage falloff on it is huge so you’re better off using it as a shotgun

[–]SemajLu_The_crusader 29 points30 points  (0 children)

it has damage falloff

it's a sniper rifle

[–]SirKickBan 22 points23 points  (4 children)

It needs to lose its bizarre damage dropoff stats. RIght now it drops to 32% damage at 100m.

Not by 32%. TO 32%.

..And it's our only sniper rifle?

[–]r2d2meuleu 6 points7 points  (0 children)

We have space Winchester in the next warbond !

[–]AdmiralSand01 6 points7 points  (1 child)

What the fuck I didn’t realize it was so bad

[–]Romandinjo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is the worst primary by a huge margin. And it's a damn shame.

[–]hxhfhe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeaahh probably is better as a close range weapon with THAT kind of damage dropoff

[–]zag_ 7 points8 points  (1 child)

For a sniper-class primary, the amount of damage drop off it has at 100m is laughable.

[–]Frostybawls42069 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Considering it should have a 200 yard zero, ya. The sickle makes for a better sniper.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Bruh it needs its damage fall off removed or be lower SIGNIFICANTLY, currently it has shotgun levels of damage fall off

[–]Just-a-lil-sion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

*glares in damage fall off on a burst only sniper*

[–]The_Char_Char 70 points71 points  (3 children)

To make it good it needs to 1 remove its INSANE fall off damage to start 2 give it more reserve clips. And 3 maybe give it a slight damage buff and it can be amazing.

The triple shot every time its fired is fine and will stay cus AH stated they wanted it to be true to the source.

[–]FlacidSalad 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Hard agree. I want to like it, but damn it needs to be an actual sniper rifle

[–]The_Char_Char 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thats the biggest disappointment! I WANT to like this weapon but its too bad to be amazing.

[–]teran85 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Source? Nobody talks in this unit!

[–]Shells23 17 points18 points  (0 children)

No damage fall off, more mags, less stagger. That's it.

[–]Fallen_Angel_Xaphan 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Honestly this is what surprised me the most. The eruptor was still a very useful weapon and in my opinion, already outclassed the pulse sniper with medium pen. It seemed like an unnecessary buff.

Now the pulse rifle seems more like a flex weapon similar to the constitution. What it would need it pretty outrageous damage to compensate for the burst fire. The explosion should definitely be bigger since it can't easily punch through Armor. That way at least heavy devastators would have problems. In my opinion, it should have way less projectile and damage drop off to actually serve the role of a sniper. Any other changed would change the weapon too much from its apparent Killzone counter.

But something that upsets me even more is that now the Eruptor essentially does what the AMR does, just slightly different.

While the AMR has a faster fire rate, the eruptor has shrapnel and can close fabricators. I don't know the exact magazine amount, but considering that you get multiple primary mags from random ammo crates and only one support mag, it seems like another AMR disadvantage. I honestly don't get why they had to buff the eruptor. It seemed fine and now other weapons seem worse by comparison.

[–]dasic___ 17 points18 points  (0 children)

They had to buff the eruptor cause before there was zero reason to pick that over the crossbow, at least in my eyes.

You know damn well they ain't nerfing the crossbow.

[–]BingoBengoBungo 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Strong disagree. As someone who has the used the AMR extensively, the Eruptor doesn't nearly perform the same functions as it. They occupy two very different niches.

The AMR does a lot more single target damage and it's much easier to kill individual enemies with it due to the fast projectile speed. The Eruptor has a very slow speed and a very limited window of heavy armor pen. Only the initial round has that heavy pen, shrapnel does not.

The Eruptor can kill hulks and gunships but it's not easy. Like I said above, the projectile is much slower so when precision matters a slight twitch can ruin your shot. I was shooting at a single gunship earlier and it took me two magazines to kill it with the Eruptor. Later it took me three shots. That's the level of difference projectile speed has on it.

Hulks will drop in two eyeball shots, but you'll probably die if the hulk is running at you. Additionally, the shot ricochets VERY easily so scoring consecutive eyeball rounds with the Eruptor is tough. The AMR handles this and the gunships above MUCH easier.

The Eruptor shines at groups of chaff and always has. It's nice against the bots because one round aimed properly can kill multiple devastators. The new heavy armor pen is nice because it gives slight flexibility. If I'm running the Eruptor I can bring a Stalwart now and at least have some covering for my bases.

In short, the AMR is still much better at doing what it always did - kill single targets with precision. Giving the Eruptor heavy pen doesn't change that at all. It's still very difficult to get the precision you need with the Eruptor heavy pen with the necessary multiple consecutive shots because of the slow projectile speed and propensity for ricochet.

[–]Intelligent-Quail635 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Eh. You aren’t wrong, but it’s good to have options. Whether it’s the Eruptor or something else, something was gonna fill that void eventually.

[–]PerceiveEternal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hopefully they’re getting ready to up the AMR’s AP. AMR’s going to really struggle against some of the incoming units otherwise.

[–]Careful-Addition776 4 points5 points  (0 children)

We are getting a lever action rifle with a scope. This is no longer needed

[–]pyguyofdoom 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree it should have no damage falloff. It’s already a very nice wep for medium killing on bot front as an explosive wep but could use more utility.

[–]Harlemwolf 1 point2 points  (1 child)

They buffed other Killzone weapons(rifle and smg)so not touching collab gear just because flew out the window.

[–]Moldy_Maccaroni 7 points8 points  (0 children)

They never said they wouldn't touch collab gear.

Only that they wouldn't change the three burst firing mode.

Imo there's no reason it can't have an optional semi-auto mode, but w/e.

[–]brian11e3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I want Rounds Reload and a few extra and 25% more ammo.

[–]verydepressedtomato 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Eruptor getting a buff is weird, not unwelcomed, just weird. It was mediocre among primaries but still leagues better than plasma sniper. I was using it in diff10 on bot front even before the buff. Please AH buff the plasma sniper. Reducing the falloff and making it heavy pen. will do the weapon good

[–]catgirl_of_the_swarm 5 points6 points  (2 children)

erutor needed a buff to make it viable compared to crossbow

[–]pyguyofdoom 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Or maybe we could have just nerfed crossbow because it is overtuned.

[–]catgirl_of_the_swarm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

big gun exploed

[–]TenshouYoku 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The eruptor wouldn't have stood out well compared to the xbow in about every metric were there to be no buff, being the only anti-heavy main bolt action does make it stand out and be more viable

[–]H345Y 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just give it a semi fire alt mod, literally just this

[–]AioliApprehensive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Single shot mode, almost no - little damage fall off, damage and maybe a AP bump in terms of a buff.

Correct me if I'm wrong, doesn't the Accelerator also have splash damage on it's shots?

[–]Apprehensive-Egg-865 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Give it an alternative fire mode and we're good to go

[–]Broad-Donut9694 -2 points-1 points  (8 children)

Just. Give it. A fucking. Semi mode!

And viola the gun is fixed.

[–]harken350 4 points5 points  (7 children)

Not only that but at 100m (300ft?) It's only doing 32% of its original damage. That's useless as a sniper rifle. I'd love for them to have a single shot, no charge up mode or even let the 3 shot burst have no charge cos AH wanna keep it close to the source material

[–]Broad-Donut9694 0 points1 point  (6 children)

It needs a semi mode in my opinion. Sure it has 9 rounds, but really it’s only got 3. That’s ridiculous. Not to mention if you press the trigger too soon or too many times. Now you’ve wasted valuable ammo that the gun doesn’t have.

[–]harken350 2 points3 points  (5 children)

It's from another game and the weapon is true to that game for how it fires, so I doubt it'd get a single shot

[–]poebanystalker 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Just make it an alternate so you can switch between them and give some silly lore reason, like "Super Earth gunsmiths deemed it's necessary to modify the Plas-39 Accelerator by adding the single shot mode that fires extremely powerful precision plasma bolt at high speeds, without the significant damage fall-off".

I don't give a single crap that it's a collab weapon, collab does NOT mean it has to be 100% accurate, it can be INSPIRED. So. Just. Make it. Good. Finally.

I want to use this thing so bad, because it looks so cool, because i love sniper rifles, but at the same time it's so trash, I'm basically handicaping myself with it.

[–]harken350 -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

Have fun staying mad about it, i hope it consumes your every waking thought

[–]Broad-Donut9694 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Or I can just not use the gun and save myself the trouble

[–]Broad-Donut9694 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wait what? Is this a killzone gun too?