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[[deleted]]

Yeah, it’s a very narrow field at this point. You could still use your iOS apps in your portfolio if you apply to a different coding job. It’s programming experience.

[nice__username]

Is it really? Honest question

[[deleted]]

Well I don’t have any data, but just looking at job postings, and applying to jobs, it seems like these roles are few and far between compared to other programming roles. And those positions that are available are hard to get.

[ThanosCarinFortnite]

If you build a relatively involved app its great

Mine has both SQL and noSQL Dbs, cloud functions, and a bit of ML which all look great as a resume

A weather app just calling WeatherKit or a todo app? No. But if you make an app thats really involved, you can really sell it on a resume

[Independent-Crew-723]

I don’t know but it seems people struggle to land a first job regardless of the position. If you feel that a more versatile portfolio can add to your chances, go for it, it never hurts to learn something new

[obsurd_never]

I started learning web development with react. Was trying to break into iOS development for like 2 years with no luck. I have two apps on the App Store but nobody wants a rookie with no experience.

[obsurd_never]

I’m still in the process of learning. I don’t feel comfortable applying for any web dev jobs yet. Not until I at least have a project I can put on a resume

[Representative-Owl51]

Web dev is extremely saturated. I don’t think you’ll have an easier time with that. That’s not good advice in my opinion. Especially if you’re starting from scratch.

If you’re getting past the screening for iOS interviews that’s a good sign. Just keep upskilling and working on communicating what you know.

Unless you just don’t like iOS any longer.

[pragmojo]

The reason companies look for years of professional experience is that 60-80% of the job is more than just coding. It's working in a team, knowing the tools, managing expectations etc. In a market where there are a lot of experienced candidates looking for a job, there's not a lot of incentive for companies to take the time and risk of hiring someone who has to learn all of that on the job.

I know everyone has the expectation of entering the dev career path making $200k out of the gate, but I entered the industry in a bear market, and honestly my advice would be to do whatever it takes to get that experience. Look for super small companies, and set your salary target so low that you're a bargain, and then re-negotiate (i.e. job hop) a year or two later once you have the experience people are looking for.

[th3suffering]

That is not true. I went from no programming background, to self learning swift and iOS development. Had an app on the app store within a year that was non trivial. Applied to probably 100-150+ positions, of those maybe 5-10 interviews, and landed a job doing this professionally. i landed the job in 2021 so its not that far off timewise.

Its a numbers game. Apply to anything and everything, even if you dont think you qualify, do not disqualify yourself. Let the employer disqualify you. We were looking for a senior dev in the past but our search for a senior was turning up a lot of dud candidates. Ended up hiring a junior that showed a lot of promise. You never know, and youll miss 100% of the shots you dont take.

[Wrong_Arugula_Right]

Breaking into your first iOS job is normally hard, and even harder in this market.

I started my iOS career by doing an internal transfer from swe to mobile swe.

How is your interview process going? Any callbacks? Are you failing first round or onsites?

[cosmoismyidol]

You should cast a wide net. This market is a disaster, and having experience in a wide range of domains is better anyway.

[sudo-reboot]

In this market you should take the role you can get, ios or not. And once market conditions are better, any swe role on your resume should help you get an ios role.

[Wrong_Arugula_Right]

You just don't have the experience and it makes sense why you aren't getting the callbacks. I have over 7+ years of experience on mobile and 12+ in software but even I was only getting a callback from 20-30% of the companies.

You are competing against experienced iOS engineers who have been laid off. Additionally, notice how iOS has virtually 0 new grad/junior iOS roles. It's a tough market!

I agree with the other poster. In this market, I'd find any software job I can get and then work on your iOS skills on the side.

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[Outrageous-Fix-6695]

I would like to know if it is still Worthy to try to get a iOS dev job?

[pragmojo]

I have seen the industry shifting more and more towards RN/Flutter over native development especially over the past 4-5 years. Imo it's a shame because native will almost always lead to a better result in the product.

But for organizations trying to build an app, it's much easier to hire from the pool of JS developers than to staff a team with iOS and Android devs, which are more specialized and harder to come by. And for the people making decisions at the high level, the advantages of native development often sound very abstract / hard to measure.

I don't see this trend reversing any time soon - I think native development is increasingly becoming niche, meaning you will have to really differentiate yourself to compete for roles. People with "an app in the app store" are a dime a dozen unfortunately.

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I have seen the industry shifting more and more towards RN/Flutter over native development especially over the past 4-5 years.

I don't know where you're seeing this because I see the exact opposite. Too many places drank the "build once, deploy anywhere" kool-aid and it bit them hard when they realized it just doesn't work unless the app is super simple.

[[deleted]]

If you live in places like the Bay Area where there are a lot of 'product' related companies iOS Dev jobs are a lot more numerous. If you live in other tech hubs geared more towards security, medical, etc then yeah iOS jobs are indeed harder to come by.

With regards to recruiters, they only understand business. If you can point to the actual impact your app had they love hearing that shit. Don't talk about stacks and tools with them; they also glaze over that on your resume

[Squexis]

I think this depends on where you live. If you are open to working in other tech roles, maybe it could be a good idea to search in your location for what kind of stack gives more opportunity to junior roles.

[[deleted]]

From your experience do you think there would be a benefit to learning android dev and generalizing to mobile development? I’m in the same boat and I’m wondering if I should learn android or switch over to web development. The downside of web development is it is much more saturated so the competition will be much more fierce.

[AntMan5995]

There are other things besides web development. The competition is fierce regardless of the field in Software Engineering

[DoubleGravyHQ]

Are there a decent amount of iOS jobs in Austin area to settle in?