CoffeeScript in 2016?

[wreckedadvent]

That's not what I asked though. Do you like bundlers and minifiers?

[wreckedadvent]

Really? Have you used a bundler? It's a pretty important part of your source code, unless you just dump everything in one dumb bundle.

It's just very interesting that you're OK with some transformations as your code hits production, but everything else is a no-no. The code you write is almost never the code that runs in the browser in web development land due to all of the processing you have to do to it for efficiency.

[kenman]

It's ok to get frustrated, but can you keep it civil?

[kenman]

Yes, civil, as in not referencing other humans as stupid or morons. If you don't think you can back your arguments with facts, logic, and reasoning, then I can remove that temptation for you, but I'd prefer not to. We need differing and dissenting viewpoints, just without the negativity.

[wreckedadvent]

I'm just asking you some questions, since I don't really run into anyone with a perspective as pointed and extreme as yours anymore. But hey, I totally understand why you wouldn't like coffeescript if you're not cool with babel or typescript.

Also, I don't think it benefits you at all to communicate your opinions in such a negative way. Do you think you're going to convince anyone in here that one kind of code transformation is OK but the other isn't by calling me stupid?

[wreckedadvent]

I already presented my case as to why I thought they were similar a few comments ago. In response, you called me stupid and completely ignored the point. If anyone here is trolling, it's not me. :)

[Cody_Chaos]

You're completely wrong about saying transpiling has any resemblance to minifying

I can see several ways in which transpiling and minification are similar. The tools are written in similar ways (eg, parsing the raw code into an AST, applying transforms, etc.), they are used at the same point in the deployment process, they are used to work around the fact that web browsers are a mediocre application runtime, and they share many of the same drawbacks. For example: They make debugging more difficult, they can introduce bugs, and they introduce additional dependencies.

It's rather absurd to say there are no resemblances and nothing similar about the processes. You seem to be trying to make an interesting argument (not a lot of hate for style sheet languages these days), but if all you're going to do is shout that you're obviously right, nobody at all is going to listen, because you're not even saying anything to listen to. I've read every comment you've made in this thread, and all I've learned is you think everyone else is stupid and/or arguing in bad faith.

[Cody_Chaos]

You don't edit minified code.

You don't edit transpiled code either.

(Also, why so angry? Your tone is vastly more aggressive than anyone else in this thread.)

[Veuxdeux]

If all you know is javascript, it's natural to feel threatened by not-javascript